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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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Hey blazeone,

I clicked on your SIG PIC & she has a nice butt :yesnod: I bet the C6 won't have near a fine butt. Oops, there I go again :bb I better put my flame resistant suit back on before the C6 & Kooks folks join forces to aim the flame throwers at me. :lolg:

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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:rolleyes: I like my 350.4rwhp/363.8rwtq better. Plus, looks like my dyno graph has a better flat curve which equal low & mid power gains. :yesnod: Compare the blue lines on both graphs. Oops, hope I did not start a flame war. :eek:


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Well those are some good numbers, what else was done to the car if anything?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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:rolleyes: I like my 350.4rwhp/363.8rwtq better. Plus, looks like my dyno graph has a better flat curve which equal low & mid power gains. :yesnod: Compare the blue lines on both graphs. Oops, hope I did not start a flame war. :eek:


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[Modified by Cary, 9:55 PM 3/14/2004]

Well those are some good numbers, what else was done to the car if anything?
Please see page 2 of my Homepage http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/326343/2
Of course, now your going to mention my C5 is not bone stock after seeing my mods. However, still have stock H/C. Plus, been told changing from 2.73 rear to 3.42 rear is a slight power robber. Don't know if you will agree or disagree, however I still say my flat curve indicative of gains across the low & mid pwerband is significant.

Nevertheless, let's be :cool: & Save the :seeya

:chevy Cary
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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Please see page 2 of my Homepage http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/326343/2
Of course, now your going to mention my C5 is not bone stock after seeing my mods. However, still have stock H/C. Plus, been told changing from 2.73 rear to 3.42 rear is a slight power robber. Don't know if you will agree or disagree, however I still say my flat curve indicative of gains across the low & mid pwerband is significant.

Nevertheless, let's be :cool: & Save the :seeya

:chevy Cary
Damn man, lol. I am not trying to start crap just looking out for my best intrests, still those are good numbers. I ain't got nothing against you or LG.


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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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Gonna dyno the Supermaxx System this Saturday, will post results...
Track times coming soon because you don't race on a dyno.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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Gonna dyno the Supermaxx System this Saturday, will post results...
Track times coming soon because you don't race on a dyno.
Killer, I have been wanting to know some good track times for those.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Damn man, lol. I am not trying to start crap just looking out for my best intrests, still those are good numbers. I ain't got nothing against you or LG.
Hey Eric,

You misunderstood me. :bb I think you are wise doing your research and deciding which is best for you. I never thought you had it in for me.
Its all good :yesnod: Now, let's go pick on a Ricer.

Your fellow Corvette Enthusiast :)
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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Gonna dyno the Supermaxx System this Saturday, will post results...
Track times coming soon because you don't race on a dyno.
My 1/4 ET 12.64 @ 113.87mph with stock H/C, stock TC, and Kumho MX tires. BTW, I ain't no good at the track or at least this was my first run at the track.

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Hey Eric,

You misunderstood me. :bb I think you are wise doing your research and deciding which is best for you. I never thought you had it in for me.
Its all good :yesnod: Now, let's go pick on a Ricer.

Your fellow Corvette Enthusiast :)
no problem man
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:24 AM
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After months of reading posts and listening to the members on this forum and reading their dyno graphs...I went with LGs.

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:23 AM
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Gonna dyno the Supermaxx System this Saturday, will post results...
Track times coming soon because you don't race on a dyno.
:eek: :cheers: :thumbs:
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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if you touch a sensor with your hands that will cause them to malfuction.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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i wonder if you took LG's long tubes and had the HPC coated, cats all so. if that would allow you to use all four sensors in the proper position?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Here is how I would rate what I am looking for:

1. No problems post installation
2. Performance
3. Ease of installation
4. Cost

For those near LG, it it probably easy to get help with tuning, etc. For us up here in "no tunersville", it is a little more critical that the installation be clean and without problems.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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"Any of the newer headers will have occasional 02 code problems. The main reason is that we are trying to take an old 02 sensor that was in use for some miles and we are now asking it to take a weaker signal (further back in the system) and still respond at the same rate."

But the install calls to move the rear forward & this would actually place it much closer...not further. I just want to make sure I am to replace these with new rears. Not fronts w/ extentions & BTW can you clean a sensor?


"Most of the 250+ sets of LG headers that we have out there have no problems.
Sometimes the miles, or driving style can affect the response rate of the 02 sensors. An older 02 that has had gas with certain additives can act differently than a new one. The o2 sensors produce a small voltage based upon how much o2 is present. I am sure that 02 sensors have a tolerance that varies just like anything. Some cars resopond just by installing a new 02 sensor. others need LS1 edit to eliminate the issue.
We are still searching for the reason that 95% of the cars have no problem while some do. I also know that no header manufacture is immune to this."

That all makes sense.

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Hey Cary, I definetly appreciate your flat curve, and if I weren't going to the Magnunson later, which will add low end torque like crazy, I would agree. As it is, I will probably be traction limited anyway, so I feel like the kooks will work for me. :cool: Kool
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Hey Cary, I definately appreciate your flat curve, and if I weren't going to the Magnunson later, which will add low end torque like crazy, I would agree. As it is, I will probably be traction limited anyway, so I feel like the kooks will work for me. :cool: Kool
Now that is what I like, two C5 Enthusiast closing on a friendly note :thumbs:

Speaking of traction...I'm hoping my Kumhos will keep my C5 straight after the additional gains from the G5X-3 Cam Pkg. (w/Comp 921 DS) & Vig2800 install next month at LGM. I should be at 400rwhp/rwtq :yesnod:

BTW, this is an awesome tire comparison... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/max_perf_charts.jsp

:cheers: Cary
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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But the install calls to move the rear forward & this would actually place it much closer...not further. I just want to make sure I am to replace these with new rears. Not fronts w/ extentions & BTW can you clean a sensor?
But you are only using 1 set of sensors now, so the old rears become the new fronts, and they are furthur back than the stock fronts. Are you sure the O2s are not switched, right and left. That was a problem I saw several folks here have.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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...After the headers and X pipe 324 hp and 339 tq. After LS1 edit 340 hp and 357 tq, tuning was done by Jeff at Speed engineering. Jeff will be doing a group purchase starting monday on these headers, you can get his contact info here if you are interested http://www.speedengineeringanddyno.com


:rolleyes: I like my 350.4rwhp/363.8rwtq better. Plus, looks like my dyno graph has a better flat curve which equal low & mid power gains. :yesnod: Compare the blue lines on both graphs. Oops, hope I did not start a flame war. :eek:


:thumbs: Cary


[Modified by Cary, 9:55 PM 3/14/2004]
Well those are nice numbers, but that other guy's car is a 99 and had a 289/302 base line. Thats a 51rwhp and 55rwtq increase from the kooks alone. What was the baseline on your 01 before the lg's? True, the lg's get more tq down low but sacrifices up top, and if you wanna get more cubes then its even a bigger choke. It all depends on the intended pupose of the car. But the most important is price.

:cheers: :seeya
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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...After the headers and X pipe 324 hp and 339 tq. After LS1 edit 340 hp and 357 tq, tuning was done by Jeff at Speed engineering. Jeff will be doing a group purchase starting monday on these headers, you can get his contact info here if you are interested http://www.speedengineeringanddyno.com


:rolleyes: I like my 350.4rwhp/363.8rwtq better. Plus, looks like my dyno graph has a better flat curve which equal low & mid power gains. :yesnod: Compare the blue lines on both graphs. Oops, hope I did not start a flame war. :eek:


:thumbs: Cary


[Modified by Cary, 9:55 PM 3/14/2004]
Well those are nice numbers, but that other guy's car is a 99 and had a 289/302 base line. Thats a 51rwhp and 55rwtq increase from the kooks alone. What was the baseline on your 01 before the lg's? True, the lg's get more tq down low but sacrifices up top, and if you wanna get more cubes then its even a bigger choke. It all depends on the intended pupose of the car. But the most important is price.

:cheers: :seeya
My baseline was 295.9rwhp/318.0rwtq before any mods. Page 2 of my Homepage provides a little history of my perf mods... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/326343/2
I agree, if you want to see immediate gains down low & are in the practice of you get what you pay for then the Pro LG LT Header System is :thumbs:

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