how big is to big
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From: staten island ny
how big is to big
if mti can make 520rwhp with a 427 using a 236 236 duration cam why would you need a 250 duration cam is a 346.isnt there a point when the overlap starts to kill compression?it is possible to over cam a motor.unless you have 12 to 1 comp. and a 2800 lb car with a 4000 stall there is no need for a 250 dur cam in a 346.
ps.after countless hours of calculating(weight,gear ratio,head flow etc.etc.) i have a 238/246 cam in my 414 with 11.7 to 1 comp a 225 hp direct port fogger and i think its big enough. just my 2 cents take it for what its worth. :banghead:
ps.after countless hours of calculating(weight,gear ratio,head flow etc.etc.) i have a 238/246 cam in my 414 with 11.7 to 1 comp a 225 hp direct port fogger and i think its big enough. just my 2 cents take it for what its worth. :banghead:
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From: Assachusetts
Re: how big is to big (414a4coupe)
I don't think we've seen too big so far. With the top dog huge cams, I have seen 520rwhp on a stock bottom end 346. 520rwhp out of a 427 is nothing.
Granted, that 346 was a sheetmetal intake'd solid roller, but that's not the point. Bigger and bigger cams are making more and more power still. It's been that way since the beginning. Hell, just 2-3 years ago, 400rwhp with an all-out setup was a serious accomplishment. Nowadays you can pass that with just a cam, and 450rwhp is just getting started with the bigger H/C combos.
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Granted, that 346 was a sheetmetal intake'd solid roller, but that's not the point. Bigger and bigger cams are making more and more power still. It's been that way since the beginning. Hell, just 2-3 years ago, 400rwhp with an all-out setup was a serious accomplishment. Nowadays you can pass that with just a cam, and 450rwhp is just getting started with the bigger H/C combos.
Dope
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From: HOUSTON TX
Re: how big is to big (Dope)
Making 520 to the wheels w/A4 with a baby cam and big converter are great #'s
the question when is tooooo much cam???????????
Depends on what you are doing with the ride Correct????
We could have made lot's more h/p n/a if this was our intentions
But "Dope" again this is just a fun car!!!!!
so hp/tq is relative to what you are trying to accomplish!!!
By the way my extra 300# in this car is audio/video epuipt
I pull into the staging lanes with George Thorogood
Playing Bad to the Bone on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes my driving much more enjoyable
David
the question when is tooooo much cam???????????
Depends on what you are doing with the ride Correct????
We could have made lot's more h/p n/a if this was our intentions
But "Dope" again this is just a fun car!!!!!
so hp/tq is relative to what you are trying to accomplish!!!
By the way my extra 300# in this car is audio/video epuipt
I pull into the staging lanes with George Thorogood
Playing Bad to the Bone on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes my driving much more enjoyable
David
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From: dudley MA
Re: how big is to big (Y2K Z07 MAN)
By the way my extra 300# in this car is audio/video epuipt
I pull into the staging lanes with George Thorogood
Playing Bad to the Bone on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes my driving much more enjoyable
David
I pull into the staging lanes with George Thorogood
Playing Bad to the Bone on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes my driving much more enjoyable
David
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From: Dallas TX
Re: how big is to big (414a4coupe)
If MTI were to put a bigger cam in that car, it would see even more hp. We have not seen too big yet.
Ask Jrod what size cams they were running in Australia if you think our cams are too big.
Ask Jrod what size cams they were running in Australia if you think our cams are too big.
