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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Ok guys. I need some advice. I have a 02 Z06 with LG long tubes and a Blackwing filter and CCW 3 piece wheels 18X11.5 with 335s on the back. Other then that stock. I just got my *** handed to me by a mid to late 80's model Ford Tarus SHO. I'm boiling the tires through 3rd trying to keep up. I don't think he's spinning as hard as me cause he's got huge drag radials on the front. It looks like those civics you see at the strip. Believe you me, this thing pulls HARD!!! So what do I need to do to beat him? I would just ignore it, but he works with me. Hence my delema.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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For the quick and easy solution, N2O. Otherwise, drop in a s/c.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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I know this is hard to do, but my advice is to ignore him. There will always be a faster car out gunning. We get into these pissing contests all the time and what do they prove?

Take the high road and leave it alone.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Ask him how much work he has wasted in that Piece of Crap and you will proably laugh! Let me share something my dad told me when I purchased my first sports car!


1. There is always something faster than you

2. Theres is always soemthing fast than you that is uglier(SP) too.

3. Pick your battles carefully, you just might get smoked!

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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get heads and cam
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by freemanj
Ask him how much work he has wasted in that Piece of Crap and you will proably laugh! Let me share something my dad told me when I purchased my first sports car!


1. There is always something faster than you

2. Theres is always soemthing fast than you that is uglier(SP) too.

3. Pick your battles carefully, you just might get smoked!


If that POS outran you then he has alot of money and time invested in an ugly car
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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its a sad day huh
But it could have been worse...
It could have been a neon...
there are many streetable 4's and 6's out there that run consistant 10's.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Kinda hard to tell you what to do to beat him, when we don't know anything about the other car.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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If you are boiling the hides through third gear the first thing I would do is invest in some traction. Heads and cam will work wonders with your headers. If this were a random encounter I would probably ignore it, but this is a friend/co-worker. This sounds like a fun challenge and this kind of comradere is what improves the breed. Get to work on your car and beat him, you will enjoy the results to your car and the victory over your friend. He has to be near the limit of his potential and you have lots to exploit with your car...
Let us know what he has done to make his car fast and the results of your efforts to beat him...
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PS How stupid do DR's look on the front of a SHO?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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You allready said what the problem was... boiling the tires through third. Take him to the track, bolt on some ET streets or drag radials and then see how it goes.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Its already been said, there will be faster cars out there but too many that are as a Vette. I guess you could sell Vette and get yourself a Taurse SHO , now thats a real chick magnet...
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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I hate to admit this, but I had two count it two, mid 90's honda civics hand me my azz when leaving PIR a few months ago.

Always something faster than you... doesn't mean it has to be prettier tho

Heads and cam being installed currently!

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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nothing a 427 can't cure

Seriously though, sounds like you could use some decent drag radials...

What time/mph did he run?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
I know this is hard to do, but my advice is to ignore him. There will always be a faster car out gunning. We get into these pissing contests all the time and what do they prove?

Take the high road and leave it alone.

Tom
Theres nothing wrong with a little friendly competition, now is there? I say put on some ET streets, and spray it. I couln't see him winning.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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With all of the mods in the world, not getting traction will lose a race every time, mostly to an inferior car. I can attest to someone who has many, many mods yet I believe the laws of diminishing returns applies to me and in your case too. Rear wheel drive is great for burnouts, but launch??? I simply cannot get traction off the line in a drag race. I need to feather it and then punch it and hope my low-midrange is ample enough to overcome the disadvantage at the line. Street slicks are the only alternative in my case and quite possibly in yours. Good luck.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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In my younger years, when I would compete on the road and strip, I discovered that a spinning tire does not move you forward at a fast rate. So stop spinning the tires and drive the car. Experience is wonderful; isn't it. .
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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You should have raced him to 175 MPH.....
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Wow! Thanks for all the advice guys. Here's some of the information you wanted. 24v V6 yamaha motor for those of you that arn't that familiar with the older SHO motor, Supercharged (not stock) and what he claims to be a 50 shot of N2O. We didn't run at a strip just outside of where I work, I work nights so it's not busy at all. Any other races will be taken to the strip. Yeah the cars not pretty or cool by any means, in fact the owner calls the car birth control since you anin't getten none in it.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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He had a pair of DRs on at work? And you were, let me guess, on streets? And if you're boiling 335s into 3rd, I'd bet they're pretty old and hard, huh?

Tires, bud, tires. Then head to your favorite track (or better yet, invite him to an autocross )

Have a good one,
Mike
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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I agree with most of what said here. Traction is the key,,that is the draw back for those of us who love good ole american muscle with hight HP motors.
Fortunatley, if you were to spray or supercharge your vette it will probably last a lot longer than a 6 or 4 cylinder car...that's one thing I don't like about imports,,sure they can get into the 10's or whatever, but most have big reliability issues and are constantly swapping heads,, stuff breaking, axle problems.. they just were not meant to handle that much power like the vette
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