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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Whatever you buy mount it as high in the car as you can - like on the rearview mirror. The higher the mount the better the reception the fewer the tickets.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Default My vote is for the Valentine One!!

RadarTest.com is run by Escort so it is biased along with any article by Craig Peterson because he works for Escort and Bel because they are the same company.

The V1 is still the best and has been since 1992.

People with the X50 will tell you that "Arrows" are useless and they just slow down regardless of where the radar is coming from. It is great that the X50 told you when to slow down but the V1 will tell you when you can SPEED UP which is better information.

The X50 beats the V1 because it isn't as wide as the V1, priced lower, beats the V1 in KA band by a few tenths of a mile from the front, and it comes in blue if you count that as beating the V1.

Some people say the Valentine falses too much but I believe that is because it has 2 antennas and better range so it picks up more signals than others. Radar Roy, a retired cop, has a website and he rates the X50 a 10 out of 10 on filtering and the V1 a 9 out of 10. Check out this link if you are interested:

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/3.asp

The V1 wins because it is Magnesium not Plastic, Flat Black not Shiny Silver, 2 antennas not 1, not as long as the X50, not as high as the X50, weighs less than the X50, better in X and K band radar range, detects laser from 1/4 mile away when the car in front of it is shot, Rear radar detection that beats the X50 by 2-3 miles in all radar bands according to SML test done in 2000 sometime, detects 9 bogies of any type of radar and the X50 detects 8 (4 X, 2 K, 2 KA) at the same time, Full POP protection with no falsing unlike the X50 according to their own website (that is why the default setting leaves it OFF), comes with the visor mount and direct-wire kit but with the X50 it will cost you extra, Real Concealed display you can put anywhere with useful information compared to the X50 "DUMB CORD" with no information, full upgradeability without having to buy a new model and relearn the features and sell your other one, and Better reputation for 12 years with better resale value.
Think of the Valentine One like an expensive performance car with a great reputation, would you buy a car from a company (Escort and Bel) that has filed for bankruptcy in the past 7 years. Some people say Escort and Bel are better but VALENTINE ONE has never filed for bankruptcy and Escort filed for bankruptcy in 1997 and tried to make a comeback but got whipped by the V1 in every test. Bel radar failed so miserably against the VALENTINE ONE that they filed for bankruptcy in 2000 and were quickly bought up by Escort merging the #2 and #3 radar detector makers to try and compete with the V1

Carl Fors who runs SML claims the X50 is the "top dog" but this is what he said about the 8500 in the 2003 SML test, "When officers were told to quick trigger (approximately one second) their radar guns against the Escort 8500, it did not see, nor report, the use of Stalker’s ATR, Stalker Basic, Kustom Directional Golden Eagle, Kustom Talon, and Kustom Falcon. The 8500 did not see any MPH POP transmissions."
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilot135R
Have you ever thrown gas on a fire?

Valentine and Passport are the two favorites in the crowd. The Valentine fans love the arrows and it works great. The Passport fans get great results too, possibly less false signals, it's cheaper, but no directional arrows. Either way, you'll be happy.

Good luck and if you want more info., do a search. This topic has been seriously beat to death!
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Valentine 1. Best IMHO bar none.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunn It
If you got a V1, version 1.8, you got a steal. If you got a version 1.7, your price is about the going rate. Go to www.valentine1.com , punch in the serial # and it will tell you the version. If you got a 1.7, go to the "upgrade" page and it will tell you the difference between the 1.7 and 1.8.
Geepers. I just punched in my serial # and I think I need an upgrade. My dad gave his V1 to me a few years back, and I knew it was old, but I didn't know it was the first series they ever made! It's been working just fine and never fails to sound an alarm when the Bears are roaming. Gonna cost me $279 to upgrade, but they're going to send me a Brand New unit!

As others have said, the arrows and bogey counters DO make a difference in detecting various threats. I can't imagine not having these features (http://www.valentine1.com/demo/demo3.asp). And just remember - the best is always the target of all kind of cheap shots and outright lies. V1 is the best!!

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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
RadarTest.com is run by Escort so it is biased along with any article by Craig Peterson because he works for Escort and Bel because they are the same company.

The V1 is still the best and has been since 1992.

People with the X50 will tell you that "Arrows" are useless and they just slow down regardless of where the radar is coming from. It is great that the X50 told you when to slow down but the V1 will tell you when you can SPEED UP which is better information.

The X50 beats the V1 because it isn't as wide as the V1, priced lower, beats the V1 in KA band by a few tenths of a mile from the front, and it comes in blue if you count that as beating the V1.

Some people say the Valentine falses too much but I believe that is because it has 2 antennas and better range so it picks up more signals than others. Radar Roy, a retired cop, has a website and he rates the X50 a 10 out of 10 on filtering and the V1 a 9 out of 10. Check out this link if you are interested:

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/3.asp

The V1 wins because it is Magnesium not Plastic, Flat Black not Shiny Silver, 2 antennas not 1, not as long as the X50, not as high as the X50, weighs less than the X50, better in X and K band radar range, detects laser from 1/4 mile away when the car in front of it is shot, Rear radar detection that beats the X50 by 2-3 miles in all radar bands according to SML test done in 2000 sometime, detects 9 bogies of any type of radar and the X50 detects 8 (4 X, 2 K, 2 KA) at the same time, Full POP protection with no falsing unlike the X50 according to their own website (that is why the default setting leaves it OFF), comes with the visor mount and direct-wire kit but with the X50 it will cost you extra, Real Concealed display you can put anywhere with useful information compared to the X50 "DUMB CORD" with no information, full upgradeability without having to buy a new model and relearn the features and sell your other one, and Better reputation for 12 years with better resale value.
Think of the Valentine One like an expensive performance car with a great reputation, would you buy a car from a company (Escort and Bel) that has filed for bankruptcy in the past 7 years. Some people say Escort and Bel are better but VALENTINE ONE has never filed for bankruptcy and Escort filed for bankruptcy in 1997 and tried to make a comeback but got whipped by the V1 in every test. Bel radar failed so miserably against the VALENTINE ONE that they filed for bankruptcy in 2000 and were quickly bought up by Escort merging the #2 and #3 radar detector makers to try and compete with the V1

Carl Fors who runs SML claims the X50 is the "top dog" but this is what he said about the 8500 in the 2003 SML test, "When officers were told to quick trigger (approximately one second) their radar guns against the Escort 8500, it did not see, nor report, the use of Stalker’s ATR, Stalker Basic, Kustom Directional Golden Eagle, Kustom Talon, and Kustom Falcon. The 8500 did not see any MPH POP transmissions."
Mike V, is this (RaDaRkInG) you? I checked out your past posts and if you do not work for V1, you should.

I with everything that you say.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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I assume they cannot upgrade the present non POP V1's to include POP. Guess I will have to purchase the new V1! Still. the best detector around.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Default V1's POP upgrade!!

Originally Posted by RWhite
I assume they cannot upgrade the present non POP V1's to include POP. Guess I will have to purchase the new V1! Still. the best detector around.
I am not sure how much it will cost but you can read about their POP upgrade here and when it will be available:

http://valentine1.com/upgrades/
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
I am not sure how much it will cost but you can read about their POP upgrade here and when it will be available:

http://valentine1.com/upgrades/
You are correct! Thanks!

After I posted above, I decided to call them and they said the upgrade would be available after the first of the year. I'll spring for it. I have three of them.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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so,how does this detector let you know when you can speed up?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jessem
so,how does this detector let you know when you can speed up?
Valentine One is the only detector that has a patent which allows it to have 2 antennas (1 facing forward and 1 facing backward) so that you know which direction the radar is coming from by pointing forward, to the side, then backward or pointing backward, to the side, then forward. It lets you know when you pass the radar source or which direction the radar source is so that you know which direction to look for the cop and when you can speed up again.

Picture being a soldier in the field and there is an enemy sniper that keeps shooting at you every once in a while but he has a silencer so you can't hear where the shot is being fired from. If you have an ordinary radar detector (Escort, Bel, etc.), you just duck or slow down and you have no idea which direction the sniper is so you can't move. If you have a Valentine One, you know which direction to look (forward, backward) or if the side arrows light up, he just walked past you.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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i guess i need one of these!are the valentines up to date,technology wise?i.e.all the latest lasers,pop mode,all that??
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jessem
i guess i need one of these!are the valentines up to date,technology wise?i.e.all the latest lasers,pop mode,all that??
Yes, go to Valentine1.com and check it out for yourself.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Your eyes are the best detector.
Uhh............................I'd say it's your foot!
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Just bought a V1. Pricey, but worth every penny.
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can anybody tell me if a 1.7V1 is alot different than a 1.8?
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