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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Anyone have one, or more importantly pictures of one?

How much in the way is it and how many points is it?

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Mine is a 5 point custom built chrome molly set-up.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Any reason for the harness mounts to be so low?

The doors swingout? Removable door bars completely?

Thanks for the pictures BTW.

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Originally Posted by C5aig
Any reason for the harness mounts to be so low?

The doors swingout? Removable door bars completely?

Thanks for the pictures BTW.
I'm only 5'7" and with the higher bar the harness is not in a comfortable position for me. Door swing-outs are removable. This bar was built based on measurements taken with me in driving position. You will also notice behind the seats two bars that mount from the rocker panels to the trans tunnel. Stiffened the car up a ton when street driven.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by C5aig
Anyone have one, or more importantly pictures of one?
How much in the way is it and how many points is it?
Here are a few of my 97' done locally and good to 10.0:







And the rest:
http://www.hpracecraft.com/car_Steves-vette.html
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SHouldn't both of those roll bars hava a diagaional tube / brace in the main loop behind the driver?? This being for additional latteral strength.

As far as mounting the harnesses. the harness straps should be mounted on a bar beind the seats. the straps should be no greater then + 5 or -30 degrees off horizontal of the drivers shoulders. If the staps are mounted below that -30 degree of horizontal AND the driver has an accident the linkly hood of a spinal compression fracture goes up dramaticly. In many cases this means an additional harness mounting bar should be welded accross the main roll hoop be hind the seats.

Belts really should go though holes in the seats. If there are no seat holes then a chest latch should be used. Again in a head on collission if the belts are monted improply and go around the seats and there is NO chest latch the driver could slide though the harness system and the harness has done little good.

Roll bar padding should also be used in any place where the head / helmet of the driver and or passanger could hit the roll bar / cage. Acctully any place of contant that the human body may have with the roll cage should be padded.

many times it is great to have all the safty equipment, but as the more safty equipment we install the more techincal the details need tobe. So someone says well I drag race and all they do is see that I have a roll cage and they say I am good to go. Is that really protection?

Or some one says I dont race in the SCCA or NASA so who cares?? Well it is your life, do it properly.
Here is a guild line that many ppl use for the High Performance Driving Schools that also have time trials. personal safty part 5 and 6.
http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/nonht...deV1.0_PDF.pdf

Or the SCCA safty rules GDR Sec20

May like to look at this as well about roll overs.
http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/rollover.html


Stay safe out there and have fun.

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Depending on how you want to look at it……….these 6 points have been tested and are good for 120 + roll-overs. Mine is welded to the frame at all 6 points and is fine for my current application; the only thing better is a full cage.
As for belts, my 6 point setup is correct.
I agree on the padding/Hans/etc, but most folks just do the minimum……each to their own.
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
Depending on how you want to look at it……….these 6 points have been tested and are good for 120 + roll-overs. Mine is welded to the frame at all 6 points and is fine for my current application; the only thing better is a full cage.
As for belts, my 6 point setup is correct.
I agree on the padding/Hans/etc, but most folks just do the minimum……each to their own.
Mine is certified to 10.0 and adequate for my application. Belts are properly installed with a sternum strap. As stated above my belts go around my seats and from that aspect of safety and the fact that i'm short a sternum strap was needed to keep me safe in the unlikely event of an accident.

this picture shows extra bars 6" up from the floor for additional strength.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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For the bars that go to the trans tunnel.... any restriction on the movement of the seat? I keep the seat pretty far back for my driving position, and also have the easy in and out seat thingie setup to move the seat all the way back when i turn the car off. (I know I COULD turn that off... but it's kinda fun )

Thanks for everyone's comments and pictures.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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The cage completely depends on what you are doing with the car, that is for sure.

If you are drag racing for instance.. running faster than 7.49 in the 1/8th a five point is fine.

Wolfe Racecraft has 20% off right now and they have some NICE bolt in cages. I just ordered a 5 point bolt in with a removable drivers side bar, no passenger bar is necessary. No hoop overhead, etc.

Again, depends on what you are going to do with the car.

I got the Chromoly 5 point with a cam lock 5 point harness and the crotch bar that goes on the floor.. all for a hair over $1000. Bar is black powder coated as well.

Check them out at www.wolferacecraft.com, tell them I sent you. (NO they don't really know me, but everyone always tells you that, then you call and the people on the other end are like, "WHO?")
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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Looking more for AutoX and RR purposes than drag. I do make occasional trips to the dragstrip, but that's not why I bought this car.

I've heard of Wolfe before and am impressed with their quality/fitment in other vehicles I've seen them installed in.
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Wolfe makes a really nice cages. I have installed a few in Corvettes and F-bodies. I have heard a few complaints from places online about Wolfes cages but I have not run into any issues with them first hand. Kaley
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Road racing or drag racing really have different needs like side impact in road racing.
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