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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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It appears from the price guide that you must pay $1250 for an automatic. as opposed to the no cost choice on the 2005 model. Yes , I know you get the paddle shift, but if I wanted to shift this car, I would buy the 6 speed. I also observe that G90 performance axle ratio is not listed as an independent option. Probably still available inside the Z51 package, but not stand alone.
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( boy am I glad I got the 2005 I did!)


To each his own. G90 is not needed with that 33% lower first gear in the A6 versus the A4.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Curtis A. Franz
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To each his own. G90 is not needed with that 33% lower first gear in the A6 versus the A4.
Yes but 4th gear will be About the same as 4th (OD) with the A4 which is terrible for in town use. Also there is no 1:1 ratio in the A6. I am not impressed.

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I also observe that G90 performance axle ratio is not listed as an independent option. Probably still available inside the Z51 package, but not stand alone.
Nope, there is no optional axle ratio for the automatic be it freestanding or Z51 package, 2.56 is the ONLY rear gear for the autos.

Is there a chance that HUD is standard with the new A6 (so that one can see what gear they're in more easily) and that's part of the reason why it's a bit more costly maybe?
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Nope, there is no optional axle ratio for the automatic be it freestanding or Z51 package, 2.56 is the ONLY rear gear for the autos.

Is there a chance that HUD is standard with the new A6 (so that one can see what gear they're in more easily) and that's part of the reason why it's a bit more costly maybe?
I believe HUD requires purchase of the top tier option package (a group I personally find almost useless).

Consequently, some drivers will have to somehow find a way to live without the HUD, utilizing their tach and ears.

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Originally Posted by ProfMoriarty
I believe HUD requires purchase of the top tier option package (a group I personally find almost useless).
Consequently, some drivers will have to somehow find a way to live without the HUD, utilizing their tach and ears.
True, I'm not a fan of HUD anyway so I hope it isn't standard with the A6.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
Yes but 4th gear will be About the same as 4th (OD) with the A4 which is terrible for in town use. Also there is no 1:1 ratio in the A6. I am not impressed.


The A6 4th gear is no where near the same as the A4 top gear.

4L65E (A4)= [3.06,1.63,1.00,0.70] (4 speed auto)
6L80E (A6)= [4.03,2.36,1.53,1.15,0.852,0.667](6 speed auto)

4th in the A4 is about the same as 6th in the A6.
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Originally Posted by Curtis A. Franz


The A6 4th gear is no where near the same as the A4 top gear.

4L65E (A4)= [3.06,1.63,1.00,0.70] (4 speed auto)
6L80E (A6)= [4.03,2.36,1.53,1.15,0.852,0.667](6 speed auto)

4th in the A4 is about the same as 6th in the A6.
I figured it out. With the performance rear axle (3.15) the engine rpm in 4th (A4 in od) is very close to the A6 in 4th with the rear offered. Sorry I forgot to say the performance rear compared to the 2.56. Not exact but very close.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
I figured it out. With the performance rear axle (3.15) the engine rpm in 4th (A4 in od) is very close to the A6 in 4th with the rear offered. Sorry I forgot to say the performance rear compared to the 2.56. Not exact but very close.
So with the stouter first three gears it should compensate for the lower numerical rear end gear and give you slightly better gas mileage. Is that correct?
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Well I am not sure about mileage.... Lugged engines don't always get better mileage just because they are running slower. At 40mph my car gets better mileage in 3rd gear. Even at higher (70-75) speeds the gain in mileage (3rd vs 4th) is in tenths.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
I figured it out. With the performance rear axle (3.15) the engine rpm in 4th (A4 in od) is very close to the A6 in 4th with the rear offered. Sorry I forgot to say the performance rear compared to the 2.56. Not exact but very close.
Let me post more of one of my original posts relative to this statement. We must remember that the known A6 ratios are really announced for the Caddy and not the Vette. The product of known axle ratios with known transmissions is what I chose to call torque multiplier. It can also be used to guess at relative engine rpm's...

2.56*x6L80E = [10.31, 6.05, 3.92, 2.95, 2.18, 1.71] (*expected axle with A6)
2.73*x4L65E = [ 8.35, 4.45, 2.73, 1.91] (*current std A4 axle)
3.15*x4L65E = [ 9.64, 5.13, 3.15, 2.21] (*current hi perf A4 axle)

With the above numbers I would restate your comment to say that the A4 in 4th gear with the 3.15 differential is most like the A6 in 5th gear (not 6th). The numbers are 2.21 for the hi-per A4 and 2.18 for the expected A6. Okay?

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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtis A. Franz
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To each his own. G90 is not needed with that 33% lower first gear in the A6 versus the A4.
I would not be surprised to see the G90 axle become available again in 2007.
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I would not be surprised to see the G90 axle become available again in 2007.
it was done away with to help keep GM CAFE up as it was on constrain a lot last year and it will not be back from GM
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go to www.gmpowertrain.com click on technology then hydramatic 6 speed RWD for info on the corvette 6 speed auto and you will see it is slower 0-60 than the 4 speed auto with a 3.15 rear gear
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Originally Posted by clem zahrobsky
go to www.gmpowertrain.com click on technology then hydramatic 6 speed RWD for info on the corvette 6 speed auto and you will see it is slower 0-60 than the 4 speed auto with a 3.15 rear gear
Hey Clem, Thank you, very informative web site!
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Is there a chance that HUD is standard with the new A6 (so that one can see what gear they're in more easily) and that's part of the reason why it's a bit more costly maybe?
Ken's order guide shows the HUD to be part of the 3LT equipment group. It is independant of the tranny option.

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken.../2006coupe.pdf
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Originally Posted by clem zahrobsky
go to www.gmpowertrain.com click on technology then hydramatic 6 speed RWD for info on the corvette 6 speed auto and you will see it is slower 0-60 than the 4 speed auto with a 3.15 rear gear
The A-6 has a higher numerial ratio which is not good for acceleration so then the 2005 4 spd. Auto was better for acceleration than this new A-6?
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I think the new tranny is ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT!!

I like the new low - and high - ratios and think the paddle shift is just right! Having driven MANY stick shifts in the past, I'll bet that, with the operation of this new tranny, stick shift buyers in the future will dwindle fast.

And, that there will be a lot of 05 stick AND auto trade-ins to get the new A6.

Also - 1250 is a VERY fair price! (Unlike the chrome wheels @1995.)

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Nope, there is no optional axle ratio for the automatic be it freestanding or Z51 package, 2.56 is the ONLY rear gear for the autos.

Is there a chance that HUD is standard with the new A6 (so that one can see what gear they're in more easily) and that's part of the reason why it's a bit more costly maybe?
I'm glad I got an 05 C-6 with 4 spd. auto which is a heavier duty version 4L65LEof a tried and true transmission with 3.15 gears.
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If you haven't even driven an A6, how can you prefer one over the other??
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