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I don't know why everyone fears displacement on demand so much, there is certainly nothing wrong with having 425 horsepower and getting 35-40MPG on the highway!
Because additional complexity adds to the potential for failure, or increased maintenance costs when the car is 5 years old. I'm still "on the fence". If DOD nets 2 mpg, they can keep it. If it nets 5 mpg and it proves to be trouble free for a a couple of years (on Impalas, Tahoes, etc) , then I might be o.k. with it.
I'm curious what it will do to the poularity of cat back exhaust systems.
Umm, no. You may want to read up on C5/C6 information, where you will see the reason OHV was retained in LS-series engines, is because it produces the lightest and most compact engine in it's power class. The others are not even close. It's a very clever and hi-tech solution to a tough problem.
There ya go again. Don't you know that we always want the latest in "perceived" technology. We're not supposed to care about HP / unit of under hood space, or cost, or economy (all of which the LSx engines kick all the other engines' asses badly )
That settles it for me. I heard almost the same thing from my cousin's, uncle's, sister's, roomate's, talking dog. Rex said that it was also going to be the debut of the 7-speed F1 transmission as well.
That dog lies...oh, wait, it was a goat I was talking about.
Umm, no. You may want to read up on C5/C6 information, where you will see the reason OHV was retained in LS-series engines, is because it produces the lightest and most compact engine in it's power class. The others are not even close. It's a very clever and hi-tech solution to a tough problem.
Actually the LS series engines were taken from an already started new line of truck engines. See:"All Corvettes Are Red."
Last edited by Curtis A. Franz; Jun 10, 2006 at 09:42 PM.
..............415 HP. (on mid-grade). "Transitions" type roof panel, "Vapron" HVAC system, Semi- reflective paint colors.........and carpets that match the seat colors!
That's quite a jump. Are you sure? Are there any major improvements or just incremental improvements in the ports and comb chamber? (which is still a good thing)
L92 = Unported 260cc 15* 2.16/1.59 versions of the LS7 Heads.
Actually the LS series engines were taken from an already started new line of truck engines. See:"All Corvettes Are Red."
So what? Are you now going to fault them for haveing the intelligence to use proven architecture? What matters is results, and they are phenomenal from an engineering perspective.
Besides, if you want to play the origins game, the Viper's V-10 also started as a truck engine, and all Porsche 911 and Boxster engines are derived from the 1935 Volkswagen. Lamborghini originally made tractors before they got into the car business.
All are supercars today. Like I said, it is the results that count.
There ya go again. Don't you know that we always want the latest in "perceived" technology. We're not supposed to care about HP / unit of under hood space, or cost, or economy (all of which the LSx engines kick all the other engines' asses badly )
The prototype of the LS2 engine with DoD got 5 MPG more than the LS2 without. Same package, same size, same horsepower, $100-200 more cost and 5 MPG more on the highway. Obviously durability can't be determined until the technology has been out longer than 2 years.
Originally Posted by need-for-speed
There ya go again. Don't you know that we always want the latest in "perceived" technology. We're not supposed to care about HP / unit of under hood space, or cost, or economy (all of which the LSx engines kick all the other engines' asses badly )
Originally Posted by Black04Vert
The prototype of the LS2 engine with DoD got 5 MPG more than the LS2 without. Same package, same size, same horsepower, $100-200 more cost and 5 MPG more on the highway. Obviously durability can't be determined until the technology has been out longer than 2 years.
My sarcastic rebuttal was directed at those who think the LSx engines are the result of "penny pinching" or are old technology as compared to multivalve OHC motors. It had nothing to do with DoD. See posts number 15 and 36. I am completely aware of the fact that DoD does not change any of that. Which of course, is another plus of this [sarcasm] archaic [/sarcasm] technology.
You mis-interpreted my sarcasm
Last edited by need-for-speed; Jun 12, 2006 at 08:43 PM.
My sarcastic rebuttal was directed at those who think the LSx engines are the result of "penny pinching" or are old technology as compared to multivalve OHC motors. I am completely aware of the fact that DoD does not change any of that. Which of course, is another plus of this [sarcasm] archaic [/sarcasm] technology. In fact, if you read
You mis-interpreted my sarcasm
They saw that you are an Aggie and just assumed that you don't half a sense of humor
Last edited by jschindler; Jun 12, 2006 at 10:54 PM.
Umm, no. You may want to read up on C5/C6 information, where you will see the reason OHV was retained in LS-series engines, is because it produces the lightest and most compact engine in it's power class. The others are not even close. It's a very clever and hi-tech solution to a tough problem.
The prototype of the LS2 engine with DoD got 5 MPG more than the LS2 without. Same package, same size, same horsepower, $100-200 more cost and 5 MPG more on the highway. Obviously durability can't be determined until the technology has been out longer than 2 years.
Where did you here that? I believe the latest business case off set for mpg is 10.00 per tenth mpg. 5 for 200 per your words. Sounds like someone should get rich from technology.
Oh, also the last I heard was DOD gives maybe 1 mpg at best on trucks.
But what do I know.
Where did you here that? I believe the latest business case off set for mpg is 10.00 per tenth mpg. 5 for 200 per your words. Sounds like someone should get rich from technology.
Oh, also the last I heard was DOD gives maybe 1 mpg at best on trucks.
But what do I know.
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