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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Ok, so it seems that the paint for our cars is just off the charts.... What I'd like to know are the prices for the other colors that have been deemed an extra cost in the same range... Something ain't right...

Thoughts??????

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Ok, my bad that I didn't explain it more clearly.. I have a JSB car and from what I've read here, the cost for this paint is clearly off the charts.. So for stuff like what Pipedreams does is not make sense... Or if I wanted to paint my fuel rail covers or license plate frame, what IS the correct process... I got a 5oz spray can from Fitchner and wonder if I need something else to get the correct color.. It doesn't look as straight forward as I thought or hoped for..

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Could you give us a little more detail as to what information you are looking for. You seem upset about the pricing of JSB paint but I'm not sure who you are upset with.
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Could you give us a little more detail as to what information you are looking for. You seem upset about the pricing of JSB paint but I'm not sure who you are upset with.
Or why ?
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Originally Posted by joec
Ok, so it seems that the paint for our cars is just off the charts.... What I'd like to know are the prices for the other colors that have been deemed an extra cost in the same range... Something ain't right...

Thoughts??????

/joe
2008 Vettes
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45U Velocity Yellow $750.00
83U Atomic Orange $300.00
85U Jetstream Blue $750.00
89U Crystal Red $750.00

GM says it's either premium paint (Atomic Orange) or premium tintcoat. It's an extra process in the painting cycle. Just like another option - if you don't like the price, buy something else.

I suspect prices for special paint processes are as high or higher for other cars.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Ok, so it seems that the paint for our cars is just off the charts.... What I'd like to know are the prices for the other colors that have been deemed an extra cost in the same range... Something ain't right...

Thoughts??????

/joe
So far the JSB is the problem. I have ordered a bunch of the other colors with no issue. When I tried to order a 12oz spray can they called back and said $275 for one 12oz can. The reason is the paint formula calls for a special base additive that cost $250 just to make a quart. They called it an effervescent pearl which I assume give JSB it’s aqua blue glow.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
2008 Vettes
Paint:
45U Velocity Yellow $750.00
83U Atomic Orange $300.00
85U Jetstream Blue $750.00
89U Crystal Red $750.00

GM says it's either premium paint (Atomic Orange) or premium tintcoat. It's an extra process in the painting cycle. Just like another option - if you don't like the price, buy something else.

I suspect prices for special paint processes are as high or higher for other cars.
Well if you would've taken 5 seconds to look at my profile it clearly states I OWN a JSB car... Just a very stupid reply...
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Originally Posted by joec
Well if you would've taken 5 seconds to look at my profile it clearly states I OWN a JSB car... Just a very stupid reply...
Wow, that was a little harsh don't you think. If you re-read your question (try not to look at what you intended to say, but what you actually wrote) you would see that his response is one possible reply to your question. You said that (and I quote)

"What I'd like to know are the prices for the other colors that have been deemed an extra cost in the same range"

Jim gave you a list of the other 2008 premium colors and what their respective upcharge was.

Damn, who pissed in your wheaties this morning.
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Originally Posted by joec
Well if you would've taken 5 seconds to look at my profile it clearly states I OWN a JSB car... Just a very stupid reply...
I might be the only one, but to me your original post isn't clear. Are you asking about the pricing of JSB as an option when one orders it on a new Corvette? Are you referring to how much GM pays their supplier for the paint? Are you referring to how much it costs to buy the paint in small quantities in the aftermarket? It looks to me like Jim thought you were asking the first question (as did I), in which case his answer makes a lot of sense.
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Wow, that was a little harsh don't you think. If you re-read your question (try not to look at what you intended to say, but what you actually wrote) you would see that his response is one possible reply to your question. You said that (and I quote)

"What I'd like to know are the prices for the other colors that have been deemed an extra cost in the same range"

Jim gave you a list of the other 2008 premium colors and what their respective upcharge was.

Damn, who pissed in your wheaties this morning.
Ahh... Actually wasn't wheaties, but very possibly my egg & bacon sandwich... So while I agree that Jim's answer was well within line of my obviously vague post his "if you don't like the price" quote did **** me off.. Doofy post and a partial doofy reply...

So yes this is about buying the paint in the aftermarket. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen an uplift for the GM rear spoilers, door handles etc.. Maybe I should buy them before they figure it out..

Tin Star, I actually did drive it this morning.. It's dreary and raining, but what the heck I'm gonna go and wash it now....

/joe
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Originally Posted by joec
Ahh... Actually wasn't wheaties, but very possibly my egg & bacon sandwich... So while I agree that Jim's answer was well within line of my obviously vague post his "if you don't like the price" quote did **** me off.. Doofy post and a partial doofy reply...

So yes this is about buying the paint in the aftermarket. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen an uplift for the GM rear spoilers, door handles etc.. Maybe I should buy them before they figure it out..

Tin Star, I actually did drive it this morning.. It's dreary and raining, but what the heck I'm gonna go and wash it now....

/joe
As least that stuff IS AVAILABLE for your car!! AO has been out for how long? And there is still more JSB stuff available from GM than there is AO! Makes perfect business sense to me though as JSB is a much more popular color than AO. Cheers.
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So far the JSB is the problem. I have ordered a bunch of the other colors with no issue. When I tried to order a 12oz spray can they called back and said $275 for one 12oz can. The reason is the paint formula calls for a special base additive that cost $250 just to make a quart. They called it an effervescent pearl which I assume give JSB it’s aqua blue glow.
OH come on. I ordered JSB spray paint from my Chevy parts counter it was $6 a can. I'll fax you the bill. Here is a plate frame I painted with the GM over the counter stuff. Sounds like some paint shop is trying to effervesce his pockets with your money.
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Originally Posted by joec
Ahh... Actually wasn't wheaties, but very possibly my egg & bacon sandwich... So while I agree that Jim's answer was well within line of my obviously vague post his "if you don't like the price" quote did **** me off.. Doofy post and a partial doofy reply...

So yes this is about buying the paint in the aftermarket. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen an uplift for the GM rear spoilers, door handles etc.. Maybe I should buy them before they figure it out..

Tin Star, I actually did drive it this morning.. It's dreary and raining, but what the heck I'm gonna go and wash it now....

/joe
That's fair enough. I actually missed the last part of Jim's answer. I'd say you're even.
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The toners in JSB and other colors are indeed more expensive. Factorys have a way to creep up the cost of paint options because they pay more for the paint from PPG, Dupont etc. Is the extra cost for the actual paint applied to each C6 $750? Probably not but they know if you love the color you will pay for it. Seems that $750 cost is universal as it's what Audi charged me for the paint option on my new S6.

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Originally Posted by joec
Ahh... Actually wasn't wheaties, but very possibly my egg & bacon sandwich... So while I agree that Jim's answer was well within line of my obviously vague post his "if you don't like the price" quote did **** me off.. Doofy post and a partial doofy reply...

So yes this is about buying the paint in the aftermarket. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen an uplift for the GM rear spoilers, door handles etc.. Maybe I should buy them before they figure it out..

Tin Star, I actually did drive it this morning.. It's dreary and raining, but what the heck I'm gonna go and wash it now....

/joe
My apologies if you weren't too happy with part of my response. But if you and I were in the office discussing it or in a bar discussing it, and you asked for an opinion about something, I shouldn't have to tell you to wait while I go outside to see what kind of car you have or what color car you have so that I'll know how to answer.

Also, in my defense, it looks like you explained your question a little better after some responses indicated that others weren't sure what you were asking.

Two other posts here today indicated that sometimes you can find the touchup paint to be very expensive ($275 a can when Pipedreams priced some) or very cheap (don't remember the amount) when Jet Stream bought some.

It's to be expected and it has been proven here on the forum that getting matching paint for first-year GM colors is usually a difficult, and sometimes a painful process.

Didn't mean to ruin your day.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
My apologies if you weren't too happy with part of my response. But if you and I were in the office discussing it or in a bar discussing it, and you asked for an opinion about something, I shouldn't have to tell you to wait while I go outside to see what kind of car you have or what color car you have so that I'll know how to answer.

Also, in my defense, it looks like you explained your question a little better after some responses indicated that others weren't sure what you were asking.

Two other posts here today indicated that sometimes you can find the touchup paint to be very expensive ($275 a can when Pipedreams priced some) or very cheap (don't remember the amount) when Jet Stream bought some.

It's to be expected and it has been proven here on the forum that getting matching paint for first-year GM colors is usually a difficult, and sometimes a painful process.

Didn't mean to ruin your day.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
My apologies if you weren't too happy with part of my response. But if you and I were in the office discussing it or in a bar discussing it, and you asked for an opinion about something, I shouldn't have to tell you to wait while I go outside to see what kind of car you have or what color car you have so that I'll know how to answer.

Also, in my defense, it looks like you explained your question a little better after some responses indicated that others weren't sure what you were asking.

Two other posts here today indicated that sometimes you can find the touchup paint to be very expensive ($275 a can when Pipedreams priced some) or very cheap (don't remember the amount) when Jet Stream bought some.

It's to be expected and it has been proven here on the forum that getting matching paint for first-year GM colors is usually a difficult, and sometimes a painful process.

Didn't mean to ruin your day.

Jim,

No apologies needed, you were indeed correct that my first post was not clear and I corrected that as you can see from the edit..... If we were in a bar or at the office, you'd probably know me and know what color car I have though.. Didn't ruin my day, no biggie....

Torch,
I'm not bitchin about the $750 for the JSB... That cost was a non issue for me.. The car is awesome in JSB..

I also bought a 5oz can of JSB, but now wonder if there's more I need to buy. From other posts it sure looks that way... Does someone have information on what is really needed and what the costs are??

/joe
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Jim,

No apologies needed, you were indeed correct that my first post was not clear and I corrected that as you can see from the edit..... If we were in a bar or at the office, you'd probably know me and know what color car I have though.. Didn't ruin my day, no biggie....

Torch,
I'm not bitchin about the $750 for the JSB... That cost was a non issue for me.. The car is awesome in JSB..

I also bought a 5oz can of JSB, but now wonder if there's more I need to buy. From other posts it sure looks that way... Does someone have information on what is really needed and what the costs are??

/joe
Check this thread out. Member d1 guy did some research on this just a week or two ago. Hope this helps.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1849201
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Torch,
I'm not bitchin about the $750 for the JSB... That cost was a non issue for me.. The car is awesome in JSB..

I also bought a 5oz can of JSB, but now wonder if there's more I need to buy. From other posts it sure looks that way... Does someone have information on what is really needed and what the costs are??

/joe


JSB is a great looking color and worth $750 for sure. Seems almost all factorys are charging $500-$1000 more for certian colors. I think you may need a light base coat or primer. I usually shoot a white or light gray primer under most everything except black or very dark colors. The spray can you have maybe a single stage with a clear binder. I usually shoot a clearcoat over metallics even if the spray can has a clear binder for added depth. What are you painting? Plastic, metal?
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