S2000 vs. Vette
Not a realistic comparison base on real track world experience.
Neither car is a match for the C5 or C6 on a road course or in the canyons on the stock tires. Once you put race rubber on a Corvette, it is one of the meanest track cars you can have. Even Vipers can't keep up (unless the driver is a semi-pro). S2000 is not even in the same class. More like an E36 M3.
However, beyond an autox, the car exposed its weaknesses. That same chassis/engine setup that allowed for no understeer got people into troube at actual tracks where speeds could reach 100+mph. Snap oversteer has killed MANY an S2k, whether its on the street or on a roadcourse. The lack of power became a lot more obvious on a roadcourse than an autox. The lack of room/creature comforts became obvious on the street. For those that say an S2k outhandles a vette, you are quite mistaken. The vette has WAY more overall grip than an S2k. You can have the best suspension in the world, but if you can't put a tire underneath the car, you will always be left wanting more in terms of grip. The S2k does change direction and turn in WAY better than the Vette, you can chalk that up to the chassis design, wheelbase, and the engine layout.
I loved my S2k when I had it and am very glad I was able to own my 03. Its feel of the road and immediate turn in made you think you could out handle anything. However, in the hands of a skilled driver, the Vette would be faster around a roadcourse everytime. At an Autox, the S2k would def have its best chance. A car like the S2k excels on tightly laid our courses like an autox. Thats where everything that is good about the S2k can be maximized while all of its weaknesses are minimized.
I never drove an S2000, but drove Porsches and owned a 996 C4. The following are my thoughts as far as handling perceptions.
As far as handling I think it is more a question of user-interface. The steering ratio is smaller than other sports cars like the Miata/S2000/911, so for the same turning angle you need to have a larger steering input (turn more). If you adapt to its inputs it handles just as well, if not better. I had a 911 C4 and before I bought my current '08 C6 I came to this forum and asked lots of questions. Often, I was seen as a troll because I questioned handling issues and other things. I ended up renting a C6 in order to compare it back-to-back against my 996 C4 in the twisties. I realized it required larger steering inputs, but the chassis handled superbly and BTW... this is a very stiff chassis.
When someone tries a C6 and then tries a Miata/S2000/911 it will feel initially less directness, and that's the smaller steering ratio. One may always prefer a more direct steering... but, actually, the C6 choice makes more sense and is safer for day-to-day road use. I remember that in my 911 I could not slack in steering as the car would move out of lane with the slightest wheel change.
At the end of the day one may prefer a more direct design/smaller car, vs the C6 design, but in my view it is a user interface choice, not that the Vette handles worse. If it did... I would not have switched from a Porsche 911.
Also size... the C6 appears larger/wider than a Porsche 911. In reality it has the same length/width. It appears larger because it is lower (by 2 inches). Driver's position makes a difference in perception too. In a 911 the driver seats, roughly, in the center of the car and has a more front-row view of the road in front. In a Vette the driver seats further back of center, with a more detached view of the front. This makes also a difference, makes the car feel bigger when it is not.
When all is said and done, these are all great cars, built with different philosophies and all should be appreciated. Some prefer one and others prefer different ones, and it's just fine.





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You can run th s2K harder by keeping your foot in it longer... Can't do that in the vette without breaking some law within .5 sec
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"In fact, the S2000 exhibits bending and torsional rigidity (especially important for good handling) better than many closed-top sports cars."
Lesson 2: anything smaller (shorter) than the Vette is a chick car.
Lesson 3: people who have never driven whatever non-Vette car you are comparing will chime in claiming "I drove one of those and my SUV handles better" or "I like the XYZ brand, but that car is a real piece of junk".
Lesson 4: If it ain't a Corvette, it's junk.
Lesson 5: In every one in 50 posts, there will be someone reasonable with some constructive input. If you are unable to find those posts, see lesson 4.
Mike
On the track, the S2000 is a momentum car. It rewards smooth inputs of steering, braking, and throttle application, and will punish ham-fistedness. Learning to drive the S2000 competently on the track makes you a better driver. Lap times won't match monster motor, point-and-shoot cars, but the track experience in the S2000 is still hugely rewarding.
The biggest dynamic weakness of the car is the lack of good feedback from the steering. It makes it hard to judge the cornering limits, and this has contributed to a lot of messed up S2000's.
The C5 got better gas mileage (the C6 is still better)
The C5 was quicker 0 to anything
The C5 had better brakes
The Miata redlined in 6th gear at 132mph (4.10 gear)
He then asked me if there was anything better about the Mazdaspeed and I told him it took 3 quarts less oil to do an oil change.
Lesson 2: anything smaller (shorter) than the Vette is a chick car.
Lesson 3: people who have never driven whatever non-Vette car you are comparing will chime in claiming "I drove one of those and my SUV handles better" or "I like the XYZ brand, but that car is a real piece of junk".
Lesson 4: If it ain't a Corvette, it's junk.
Lesson 5: In every one in 50 posts, there will be someone reasonable with some constructive input. If you are unable to find those posts, see lesson 4.
Mike
s2000 in the same sentence with a vette is where you lose credibility and draw all the comments wondering why you bothered.
s2000 in the same sentence with a vette is where you lose credibility and draw all the comments wondering why you bothered.
Mike















j/k btw nice gf the cars not bad either



