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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Mine has been super reliable and I drive about 8-9k a year would drive more but winter and all
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by StanNH
The Boxster is a great little roadster...excellent handling, superb steering, and a legendary motor. If you find the car comfortable, like the looks, and enjoy driving it, you can't go wrong.

The C6 is, IMHO, the best and most competent Vette ever produced. Great looks, comfortable seating, excellent handling, and tons of torque. It's a car with few faults.

The early Boxsters were a service nightmare and had huge problems. The newer ones have gotten themselves sorted out and are now surprisingly reliable. The 2005 C6 had some issues, but this car, like the Boxster, has gotten better with the newer production. The C6 scores low with CR mainly because of numerous relatively minor, "nuisance" problems. My own 2005 C6 has had several service issues addressed...it has not been perfect...but it developed into a very reliable vehicle.

As far as your other concerns....what people tell you about your "image' is total BS and should have no bearing on your choice of a car. Anyone who says that the Corvette has no "class" knows nothing about cars...nothing. Maybe these people can offer you valid advice on buying designer jeans, but they're clueless when it comes to cars.

You have to decide what's most important to you, pleasing your friends or buying what you like most. The Porsche Boxster is a well respected car and one I would enjoy driving...if I could fit in one, which I can't. I don't like their seats and hate their pedal arrangement, but that's me. The Vette is a different animal...not quite as "refined", but a blast to drive and beautiful to look at.

My guess is that....and I'm going out on a limb here....most owners of Corvettes whom you find on a Corvette message board will tend to recommend the Corvette.
Well said!

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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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I wonder how many of the folks here that say the Boxster is a "girlie" car or not a "real" Porsche have actually driven one? As the former owner of a 2000 Boxster S (traded in on a Caymen S) I have to say it was more fun to drive than my Z06.
I like the Cayman way better than the Boxster, but they are both excellent cars.


The Porsche is way more nimble with better steering and brake feel than the Z06 which I think translates to a better road car. The Corvette (any model) will crush the Porsche in acceleration. I really disliked people's stupid comments about the Z06 ("are you buying a gold chain and tupee too?" etc) and don't like seeing these stupid comments about the Boxster either. The Vette and the Porsche are both great cars, but are very different in how they drive. Test drive them both and pick the one you like best, you can't lose.
All good, accurate comments. The OP will be happy with either one, as long as he drives them both and picks the one that serves his needs best.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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The only Boxturds that are driven around here are by trophy wives and girly men.

Actually that is very true. Boxters are not Porsches, they just have Porsche badging. they are wanna be's. My wifes Solstice GXP is faster than a Boxter, gets more looks too. And yes, I have driven one.... I was actually a little bit embarrased.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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The boxster gets a bad rap because it is a Porsche and not a 911 when really it is a great car. If you stuck a Honda, Toyota or any badge on it, people would comment on how nice the car is. But because it is not the "expensive Porsche" people that don't really appreciate cars in general look down on it. That said I find most people are really clueless about cars in general. When I bought my Vette 9 days ago (I was also looking at Porsche) I had three people tell me "that's an old man's car" "why did you buy a Chevy?" blah blah blah... I asked these people how many of you have driven or even been in a newer Vette? Of course none of them had. Tip: all it takes is one ride in the Vette to quiet the naysayers...
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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I test drove a 911 S, all 355 hp with the 6 spd manual, then I absolutely fell in love with the C6 with A6 trans. Best choice I have made, best bang for the buck, easy to work on and can take on the supercars.

No problems here, but I must be wrong according to CR.

Again it is your money and you need to get what you REALLY want, not what people tell you to get.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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From NewCars.com website (a few selected paragraphs).

Performance
When it comes to horsepower, the Chevrolet Corvette packs quite a wallop and will knock the Boxster down a few rungs. On the flip side, note that high horsepower engines often command higher insurance premiums.

Handling
The Corvette and the Porsche Boxster have about comparable tires. With their similar turning radiuses, the Porsche Boxster and the Chevrolet Corvette doubtless handle roughly the same into and out of tight spots.

Drivetrain
The Porsche Boxster's engine is tremendously smaller than the Chevrolet Corvette's. Note that a smaller engine usually has to work a little harder; however, smaller engines typically get better gas mileage. The Porsche Boxster could learn a lesson or two from the Corvette regarding torque. Torque is the force that lets you accelerate quickly, and in this respect, the Chevrolet Corvette is tremendously more powerful than the Boxster.

Overview
The basic warranty that comes with the Chevrolet isn't quite as generous as the Porsche Boxster's.

Other
The Chevrolet Corvette produces fewer smog-forming pollutants per
15,000 miles than the Porsche Boxster.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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I didn't read thru all the posts but have seen other threads with an interesting twist: OP, go to the Porsche forums, ask the same questions, and see how many Porsche owners say they've owned a Corvette. Apparently, there are many on this site who have.

Very interesting distinction to me. And btw, are you still undecided?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Wow, lots of ignorance here. Do people realize the Boxster and 911 share the same technology and most of the parts? I owned a Boxster S before I got my 2008 C6. They are very different cars, but they are both fantastic. Porsche equips the Boxster with less power than the 911, but the Boxster is superior in several ways, a couple of them very important... like weight distribution. The Boxster is mid engine and is very nimble, feels light on its feet, and handles better than you'd believe if you've never driven one - and I don't mean driven down a straight road.

The corvette produces great numbers. The Boxster, however, might be ultimately more rewarding to drive... because it feels better. Porsche pours more engineering dollars into things that make a car feel satisfying to drive around bends- and the harder you push it, the more rewarding it is. Chevy spends more money on engineering horsepower and the hardware required to support it. The Corvette chassis is less communicative, and the seats are terrible in comparison.

In the end, both are fantastic cars and the OP can't go wrong with either one. But to dismiss the Boxster is a shortsighted mistake.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I went through the same options and discussion before I made my choice.

To sum it up the interior, handling and comfort of the Boxter is everything the C6 isn't. Most of the people I know think much higher of the name "PORSCHE".

I am used to driving only German made luxury/sports cars but there is something about the exterior style, driving position and driving enjoymnent that distinguishes this piece of GM machinery which I can't explain.

I got a C6

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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by autox c6
Wow, lots of ignorance here. Do people realize the Boxster and 911 share the same technology and most of the parts? I owned a Boxster S before I got my 2008 C6. They are very different cars, but they are both fantastic. Porsche equips the Boxster with less power than the 911, but the Boxster is superior in several ways, a couple of them very important... like weight distribution. The Boxster is mid engine and is very nimble, feels light on its feet, and handles better than you'd believe if you've never driven one - and I don't mean driven down a straight road.

The corvette produces great numbers. The Boxster, however, might be ultimately more rewarding to drive... because it feels better. Porsche pours more engineering dollars into things that make a car feel satisfying to drive around bends- and the harder you push it, the more rewarding it is. Chevy spends more money on engineering horsepower and the hardware required to support it. The Corvette chassis is less communicative, and the seats are terrible in comparison.

In the end, both are fantastic cars and the OP can't go wrong with either one. But to dismiss the Boxster is a shortsighted mistake.
Well said and very helpful.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by autox c6
Wow, lots of ignorance here. Do people realize the Boxster and 911 share the same technology and most of the parts? I owned a Boxster S before I got my 2008 C6. They are very different cars, but they are both fantastic. Porsche equips the Boxster with less power than the 911, but the Boxster is superior in several ways, a couple of them very important... like weight distribution. The Boxster is mid engine and is very nimble, feels light on its feet, and handles better than you'd believe if you've never driven one - and I don't mean driven down a straight road.

The corvette produces great numbers. The Boxster, however, might be ultimately more rewarding to drive... because it feels better. Porsche pours more engineering dollars into things that make a car feel satisfying to drive around bends- and the harder you push it, the more rewarding it is. Chevy spends more money on engineering horsepower and the hardware required to support it. The Corvette chassis is less communicative, and the seats are terrible in comparison.

In the end, both are fantastic cars and the OP can't go wrong with either one. But to dismiss the Boxster is a shortsighted mistake.
Well said!!! I think it's similar to which CAI provides the best performance? Of course, it's the one I purchased.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith N
The Boxster was fun to drive, great balance and handled like it was on "rails". It did lack the power and torque of the C6. The two cars are very different. The Porsche tiptronic transmission is outstanding and I wish the C6 A6 had a similar performing auto transmission.
That was my experience on test drives. Handling was amazing, but I was surprised that Boxster transmitted every road imperfection to the driver. Made the Z51 seem cushy.

Driving style is very different. The C6's torque allows for laziness in shifting. At 2000 rpm in 4th, the car will accelerate. The Boxster definitely needs to be above 3K to get anything from the motor.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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I dont like the look of the Boxter. I looked at the Caymen and C-6. I drove them both and they were close in price but I had to go with the Vette. I never even considered a Boxter. I hope noone is offended but I just think it looks like a chicks car.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Top Gt
I have an annual CR.org subscription, and it's funny how they "pride" themselves on being an "unbiased" publication, but the proof is in the pudding.

Check this out:





They both appear to have had some reliability issues early on. (which I would argue is to be expected of any new model.) I'm surprised by how many "engine major" issues the Porsche had.

The difference is when they give you the "today" rating.





Why does the Boxster come out with predicted reliability, but the C6 shows unreliable expectation?

I'll let you guys decide for yourselves.

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Seeing these charts on the same page really shows the Consumer Reports bias. I think Porsches are great automobiles- I strongly considered a new Cayman S, as well as a slightly used 911 before deiciding on the Corvette. So I'm not bashing Porsche, but rather CR.

I'm no statistician, but just look at Consumer Report's own numbers as far as reliability goes.
Corvette has 10 years of ratings, Boxter only 8. If you take the most recent 8 years provided, you will see:

Corvette Boxster
Excellent 26 26
Very Good 12 13
Good 7 3
Fair 12 7
Poor 7 15

Any way you average these numbers, the Corvette comes ahead in reliability. So how does the Boxster receive a rating of "better than average" yet the Corvette receives a rating of "much worse than average"? Makes no sense to me.

If you consider just the last 3 years' numbers, it looks like Porsche has made some significant improvements. Probably enough to justify a slightly better reliability rating than Corvette for only the last 3 years, and that's including the first year of the C6- 2005. But even 2005 wasn't as bad a year for Corvette as 2003 was for Boxster.

The 2003 Boxster ratings are worse than any year for Corvette.
It also appears that the highest average rating for either car, any year, was Corvette, 2004.

It's very discrediting to see these ratings broken down in comparison to the conclusions that Consumer Reports draws from them.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by StanNH
The Boxster is a great little roadster...excellent handling, superb steering, and a legendary motor. If you find the car comfortable, like the looks, and enjoy driving it, you can't go wrong.

The C6 is, IMHO, the best and most competent Vette ever produced. Great looks, comfortable seating, excellent handling, and tons of torque. It's a car with few faults.

The early Boxsters were a service nightmare and had huge problems. The newer ones have gotten themselves sorted out and are now surprisingly reliable. The 2005 C6 had some issues, but this car, like the Boxster, has gotten better with the newer production. The C6 scores low with CR mainly because of numerous relatively minor, "nuisance" problems. My own 2005 C6 has had several service issues addressed...it has not been perfect...but it developed into a very reliable vehicle.

As far as your other concerns....what people tell you about your "image' is total BS and should have no bearing on your choice of a car. Anyone who says that the Corvette has no "class" knows nothing about cars...nothing. Maybe these people can offer you valid advice on buying designer jeans, but they're clueless when it comes to cars.

You have to decide what's most important to you, pleasing your friends or buying what you like most. The Porsche Boxster is a well respected car and one I would enjoy driving...if I could fit in one, which I can't. I don't like their seats and hate their pedal arrangement, but that's me. The Vette is a different animal...not quite as "refined", but a blast to drive and beautiful to look at.

My guess is that....and I'm going out on a limb here....most owners of Corvettes whom you find on a Corvette message board will tend to recommend the Corvette.


WOW this was a intellegent, thoughtful and concise response BUT I liked the "GURLYMAN" answer BETTER....
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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Was very surprised that there were so many comments with knowledge about the Boxster. It is a Porsche with over 80% of the same parts as the 911. The Cayman is a Boxster with a hardtop which gives it different lines but still a 987. The S in both models is not slow but not in the same class as the C6 in a straight line. As many have said it handles very well and wish GM would give the Vette a similar warranty. All said, the advice of drive both and choose with one puts a bigger smile on your face is sound. It is all about which one your gives you that permagrin.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Well, now people are telling me that I have no class if I buy a C6.
They further say that if I look at consumer reports magazine, it will tell me that the vette has a lot of black marks for reliability where the porsche has good red marks and is on CR's recommended list.

But, I have driven both and the ride of the vette is something that I cant get out of my mind. I just love it.

Have you guys really had that many problems with your vettes?
Well,

I just went through making the same decision...

I really thought I wanted a Boxster S or Cayman S until I drove the new 2008 C6. I really like the way the BS and CS handle. With over 100 less hp they can keep up with the C6 on most road courses. That gives you and idea of how well they handle. The thing I found lacking was the low end grunt. It just did not have enough get up and go to justify the price in my opinion.

As for reliability, I would call it a wash with any 2005+ car...

As for what other people think, it is pointless to listen to them ( myself included ). Some of the people here call the Boxster S a "girly" car. Well I can tell you that just as many people across the country think the Corvette is a "small weeny", "mid life crissis", or "lounge lizard" car. My point is that if you are buying any car to improve your self image, you are not going to be happy with it. There is always going to be a group of people who will make fun of it for what ever reason.

The only reason to by one of these cars is to put a big smile on your face when you drive it. My best advise is to drive both and see which one puts the biggest smile on your face. That is the one to buy....
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If you get a Boxter everyone will say "look at that guy, he really wanted a 911 but couldn't afford one" but if you get a C6 everyone will know you're a smart man!


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.... BUT it still on the girly side as far as cars go much like my wife's BMW Z4. Its a nice car, looks nice but I feel somewhat more feminine driving it.
Wow, I'd like to see pictures of that. That could be a huge hit on YouTube.

I owned a Z4 for a while. I guarantee that, if I ever took you out for a ride in it, it would put hair back on your chest.
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