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I had a 2006 manual 350Z. It is well known that the motor for the 06 manual 350Z has MAJOR oil consumption issues. I went through 3 motors before lemoning the car and getting an 07 vette. This is a widespread design flaw that has significantly diminished the value of the 06 manual. Nissan apparently can't fix this issue and updated the motor on the 07.
Consumer Reports says that the "Engine Major" is excellent for the 06 350Z Take from it what you will .... I take everything from CR with a BIG grain of salt now.
YES, I have .. and many here have also.
Most love their cars just like I do but remain in denial about the persistent and rather perpetual issues.
I am pragmatic about it...
If your lucky and you get a good one .. the car is great.
If you get what most folks get and experience your love for this car will diminish greatly over time.
This comes from someone who uses his vette as a daily driver and not a garage queen or a lawn ornament.
So we're talking 12-16K per year on the car.
Having test drove the Cayman and the Boxster-S... I chose the vette [price per features]. Though handling was not as good as the Porsche.
Dealer Service is another story altogether with the Vette... plenty of disappointment there also.
Just right level your expectations with the vette, the less they are the better off you will be.
Just don't put it into dream car status.... remember it's a chevy.
Last edited by User 2623; May 5, 2008 at 04:49 PM.
Wow, lots of ignorance here. ... They are very different cars, but they are both fantastic. ...
I don't understand this statement. If "they are very different cars," how is it ignorant for one to say they prefer one car over the other?
Forget the tech info on which car has what parts, most of the selection process is subjective, meaning it's based on "feel" not tech or parts bin stuff.
As I said, a lot of/many Corvette people on this Forum seem to be quite familiar with, or former owners of Porsches. Can the same be said of Porsche owners re Corvettes if one were to ask the question on the Porsche forums?
Get whichever you like, who cares what people say. But since you asked, I would buy the Corvette. Spend some time getting to know the Germans, they are very proud of their cars (arrogant might be the correct word). I recall a business meeting with some Germans last year in Nuremberg. They were 2.5 hours late. They did not bother to call...they strolled in and explained the GPS in the Audi was WRONG....they proclaimed, "It must be zee American GPS...hahahaha".
I think the Corvette is the 'driver's car'...and the Porsche is the 'to bee seen in car'. It depends on what you want.
So many answers, so little space..."Yeah, guess you could of used the German GPS satellites...oh...wait..."
or
"The Brits didn't need a GPS to skip a 2000 lbs bomb through the front door of the Amsterdam Gestapo office....you guys can navigate better then the Brits, can't you?"
My problem with Porsches is scheduled maintenance is almost as costly as that of a small airplane.
Mine's my daily driver and only car, i've put 26,000 miles on it in the 1 year and 6 months I've owned it. No problems whatsoever. It has headers, CAI, exhaust, and was dyno tuned. My only complaint is that it is hard on tires because I drive it like I stole it. Best car I've ever owned, most likely will be getting another in a few years.
I have a good friend that drives and works for Porsche and I have riden in several he has owned and I have to say the 930 was a blast but the Boxster is a Carmen Ghia. Buy and drive what YOU like.
I don't understand this statement. If "they are very different cars," how is it ignorant for one to say they prefer one car over the other?
Forget the tech info on which car has what parts, most of the selection process is subjective, meaning it's based on "feel" not tech or parts bin stuff.
As I said, a lot of/many Corvette people on this Forum seem to be quite familiar with, or former owners of Porsches. Can the same be said of Porsche owners re Corvettes if one were to ask the question on the Porsche forums?
If you go to the main Cayman.net Forum, you will find as many if not more people who sold their C6 to get a Cayman. I would also note that most showed a lot of class on their forum when comparing the two cars...
So many answers, so little space..."Yeah, guess you could of used the German GPS satellites...oh...wait..."
or
"The Brits didn't need a GPS to skip a 2000 lbs bomb through the front door of the Amsterdam Gestapo office....you guys can navigate better then the Brits, can't you?"
My problem with Porsches is scheduled maintenance is almost as costly as that of a small airplane.
Actually, the recomended scheduled maintenance of the Boxster and Cayman ( in the manual ) is once every 12,000 miles or once a year. They are not that expensive to maintain... ( Well, not until the warranty runs out )
I would also look at the trunk space in the boxter. Can you pick up a friend and both of you load your golf clubs in the car? That was one of the major reasons I went from my C4 vert to the C6 coupe. I got tired of putting my golf clubs in the passenger seat and driving to the course alone.
Actually, the recomended scheduled maintenance of the Boxster and Cayman ( in the manual ) is once every 12,000 miles or once a year. They are not that expensive to maintain... ( Well, not until the warranty runs out )
Porsches are known to go through a set of tires like crazy. Maybe 10k if you are lucky. Oil changes are up around the $200 range. The Porsche salesmen told me the small cubbies next to the engine is where they keep the spare oil (they go through a lot of oil).
Would I own a Porsche? Heck yes, the 911 GT3 above definitely. Boxster or Cayman? Not! I think the host of Supercars Exposed said the Boxster is a "perfect chic car". Tiptronic is nice but drops the straight line performance down to around 5.8 sec 0-60 for the Cayman S. My Impala SS can beat that. My C6 A6 does that at probably around 10k feet. For $70k for a nice optioned (but not close to fully-optioned model) the S (either Boxster or Cayman) just isn't worth it IMO.
I don't know what people are talking about saying the Vette doesn't get noticed. I had French tourists taking a lot of pictures of it, people giving me thumbs up everywhere (even cops).
And yes, the Germans do build extremely fast/nice cars. After looking at the currently Euro exchange rate you start to realize they are dumping these cars in the US because there is no way you would get a new M3 loaded for $60k in Germany. No way you'll get a base C6 for that much over there either though.
I would also look at the trunk space in the boxter. Can you pick up a friend and both of you load your golf clubs in the car? That was one of the major reasons I went from my C4 vert to the C6 coupe. I got tired of putting my golf clubs in the passenger seat and driving to the course alone.
Actually it has two trunks, one in the front and one behind the engine. It is a nice car but if I ever bought a Porsche it would be the 911.
YES, I have .. and many here have also.
Most love their cars just like I do but remain in denial about the persistent and rather perpetual issues.
I am pragmatic about it...
If your lucky and you get a good one .. the car is great.
If you get what most folks get and experience your love for this car will diminish greatly over time.
so you think MOST folks get problems? i propose that most folks just POST about problems.
oh, and vettes are girl cars.
um...one more.....What's the difference between a porcupine and a porsche? With the porsche, the ****** are on the inside.
[QUOTE=phileaglesfan;1565325901]Porsches are known to go through a set of tires like crazy. Maybe 10k if you are lucky. Oil changes are up around the $200 range. The Porsche salesmen told me the small cubbies next to the engine is where they keep the spare oil (they go through a lot of oil).
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You mean wear quickly like the Z51 tires?
You can have the oil changed at any quick lube or do it your self. There is absolutely no reason to go to the dealer.
[QUOTE=sranger;1565326059][QUOTE=phileaglesfan;1565325901]Porsches are known to go through a set of tires like crazy. Maybe 10k if you are lucky. Oil changes are up around the $200 range. The Porsche salesmen told me the small cubbies next to the engine is where they keep the spare oil (they go through a lot of oil).
You mean wear quickly like the Z51 tires?
You can have the oil changed at any quick lube or do it your self. There is absolutely no reason to go to the dealer.
From what I heard Z51 tires wear pretty good unless you are racing. I've even seen car mags slam the 911 for tire use (7500 miles on one report). Even my 05 CTS V ate up tires at the 12-15k rate. I don't think I heard of a Z51 going that low.
Eventually the Porsche will see a dealer though and being mid engine doesn't help maintenance costs. The salesman response to me was "You just drop out the engine". That doesn't sound that cheap or doable for the average homeowner.
Besides if I spent $70-90k for a car, I don't plan on working on it anyways. $200 is then relatively cheap.
I would also look at the trunk space in the boxter. Can you pick up a friend and both of you load your golf clubs in the car? That was one of the major reasons I went from my C4 vert to the C6 coupe. I got tired of putting my golf clubs in the passenger seat and driving to the course alone.
With my Boxster, I had to lay out all the golf clubs in the back trunk and put the golf bag in the passenger seat area. A small roller suitcase will fit in the front trunk, but not in the back.
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