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Only in diameter size, stock 2 1/4 inches vs. NPP 2 1/2 inches.
I don't think that is correct. The NPP is a direct bolt on to stock systems. The only diameter difference in pipes are the Z06 to the base C6. The tips on the NPP have a larger diameter than those of the base tips but it does not carry through to the mid pipe.
They are supposed to be better. The only advantage comes in the reduced flow and backpressure at the crossover. You can see in the photo above that the exhaust gasses would take a sharp turn at the "H" in order to balance. With the "X" crossover the the flow would be less restrictive.
This all is contingent on the X/H pipe being the most retrictive portion of the exhaust at that point. The X pipe will reduce the burble and pop of an aftermarket exhaust. The 2005-2007 intake and exhaust was tuned with the H pipe in mind so I'm can't imagine any gain with an X pipe on the older system.
Yep, it's a little more quiet, that x-pipe was being used on the Caddy verts made in BG as late as '06.
how do the factory x-pipes compare with the borla or corsa x-pipes...any advantage of one over the other...
The factory X-pipe is a stamped/welded X-pipe. It is made of sheet metal in two halfs and welded together. Any aftermarket (Corsa, etc.) x-pipe is going to be extruded tube, formed and welded. It will start life as a tube, be cut and then joined at the "X". In terms of flow, I can't imagine that either one would be better than the other. The nod may go to the tube over the stamped for efficiency but only very slightly.
I couldn't see spending any extra money on an aftermarket x-pipe vs. the factory solution if you own a 2008.
The factory X-pipe is a stamped/welded X-pipe. It is made of sheet metal in two halfs and welded together. Any aftermarket (Corsa, etc.) x-pipe is going to be extruded tube, formed and welded. It will start life as a tube, be cut and then joined at the "X". In terms of flow, I can't imagine that either one would be better than the other. The nod may go to the tube over the stamped for efficiency but only very slightly.
I couldn't see spending any extra money on an aftermarket x-pipe vs. the factory solution if you own a 2008.
My Stock exhuast with the stock X pipe pops plenty!!!
I only notice burble and pop when the flaps are open all the time.
But after jet engines, shooting without ear protection when growing up, and sitting a bit too close to the stage at rock concerts have put a dent in my hearing.
They are supposed to be better. The only advantage comes in the reduced flow and backpressure at the crossover. You can see in the photo above that the exhaust gasses would take a sharp turn at the "H" in order to balance. With the "X" crossover the the flow would be less restrictive.
This all is contingent on the X/H pipe being the most retrictive portion of the exhaust at that point. The X pipe will reduce the burble and pop of an aftermarket exhaust. The 2005-2007 intake and exhaust was tuned with the H pipe in mind so I'm can't imagine any gain with an X pipe on the older system.
I wonder if it would sound better, as in more of a true deep classic muscle car sound,
with no X-pipe or no H-pipe at all...just a true dual exhaust with no crossover at all???
Maybe even have less burble and pop with no crossover???
I don't think that is correct. The NPP is a direct bolt on to stock systems. The only diameter difference in pipes are the Z06 to the base C6. The tips on the NPP have a larger diameter than those of the base tips but it does not carry through to the mid pipe.
My bad, I thought I read differently, so all new base vettes come with the same pipe diameter and only the NPP tips are larger. Are the base corvette pipes 2 1/2 inch in diameter, with the Z06 at 3 inches?
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Jul 6, 2008 at 11:43 AM.
My bad, I thought I read differently, so all new base vettes come with the same pipe diameter and only the NPP tips are larger. Are the base corvette pipes 2 1/2 inch in diameter, with the Z06 at 3 inches?
I wonder if it would sound better, as in more of a true deep classic muscle car sound,
with no X-pipe or no H-pipe at all...just a true dual exhaust with no crossover at all???
Maybe even have less burble and pop with no crossover???
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it just doesn't sound right w/o H or X pipe. i believe viper is like that, but that's a whole different animal
it just doesn't sound right w/o H or X pipe. i believe viper is like that, but that's a whole different animal
The Viper sounds like a fart can. I don't know why, but a V10 never sounds as good as a V8. I think it has to do with the firing order. If it sounds worse with and X-pipe god help them.
Funny thing is, the Viper has a "crossover" on the pipes, they just don't mix.
The Viper sounds like a fart can. I don't know why, but a V10 never sounds as good as a V8. I think it has to do with the firing order. If it sounds worse with and X-pipe god help them.
Funny thing is, the Viper has a "crossover" on the pipes, they just don't mix.
08 vipers have no X pipe at all, they don't even connect. Older ones have an Xpipe which is one of the primary reasons you have all the heat issues in the cabin. First thing I did with my viper was eliminate the X pipe.
The Viper sounds like a fart can. I don't know why, but a V10 never sounds as good as a V8. I think it has to do with the firing order. If it sounds worse with and X-pipe god help them.
Funny thing is, the Viper has a "crossover" on the pipes, they just don't mix.
the reason a V10, V6, V4, etc. sounds diff. from a V8 is because of the harmonic order. But this order is not firing order but a frequency order.
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