Soon enough it'll be Vette and Viper Price!!

 

So, you're smiling and nodding in approval for blackmailing your boss into restoring the wages and benefits he cut because of the economy? I assume that you're also happy about the cuts others will have to endure because you saved your own rear? I'm all for looking out for one's self, but this is underhanded sour grapes, pure and simple. You trashed your boss' business reputation all to save your own neck?

I, for one, wouldn't do business with someone that underhanded. Ever. Good luck - you're going to need it.

 

I don't know Rick, but why are you so concerned? I doubt his boss was blackmailed into giving him his job back.....

I'm just glad I'm not in the car business.... **** is rough out there and will get worse.

 

So I guess what mnvette is saying is let them cut your wages and play games with your life. Yeah don't try to help yourself. Did I get it right?

 

Great news! Good luck!

 

Rick,
Glad you are OK for the time being. I believe MNVETTE is way off base in their comments, so just ignore it and move on.

Hope things work out right for all concerned.

I will not hesistate to call you for my next new car.

 

Well that's kind of interesting. OP used US to achieve his own ends....

 

Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. If it wasn't in the absolute best interest of their company they wouldn't have returned him to his position.

 

MNVette - I think you're really way out of line here. You're making a lot of assumptions and saying someone was blackmailing someone - but unless you have a lot of information that wasn't posted on the forum, this is really about your cynicism, and not a justified response.

Yes, Rick posted that his pay was cut twice, and then his benefits were taken away. He did say he got "laid off", which wasn't technically true - and I know how sensitive you are to that, but it wasn't way off. Other than that, he didn't post anything that I saw as inflammatory, or threatening to his employer. I definitely didn't see him trashing his boss' business reputation.

So now Rick is posting that the situation has changed. He even posted that sometimes you realize what you had once it's gone.

My assumption was that Rick helped Maxie Price understand that as an employee he wasn't easily replaceable. That he brings more to the table than just a warm body, and is a value add. And that he is worth investing in even during slow times.

Who said he blackmailed them into "restoring the wages and benefits he cut because of the economy"??? Maybe Rick just got health coverage back, and is now working completely off commission? Maybe they restructured the pay so there's no risk to Maxie Price, but a bigger upside if Rick can continue to move Corvettes in a bad economy? We don't know. And if we don't know, saying "blackmail", and "saved your own rear" and "underhanded" shows that you seem to have an axe to grind that isn't any result of Rick or Maxie Price's dealings, yet you direct it twoards him.

Personally I try to stay out of these type of threads on the forums... not usually worth my time. But this was pretty low...

 

Honestly, in going back to the same operation after all that was posted a lot of integerity is lost. Who now doesn't expect another reversal in a week or two. Hope it works out for you, but you have to realize all the damage has been done

 

If Rick had posted "everyone email Maxie Price to let them know you're upset", or had (as MNVette indicated) said anything derogatory about the dealership, or "don't buy from Maxie Price because...", then I'd feel used. But Rick just let everyone know he was gone. If 1000 people said "Good Luck Rick, we'll miss you", and then he showed his former employer that he does have a lot of recognition in the Corvette world, I wouldn't say we were used.

Leveraged maybe...

 

I can assure you that I took a big hit in pay for coming back just not as big as it was when I left. You need to re-read my post and please show me where I trashed MP for anything, I simply stated the facts as they were.

 

VEry fine distinction (as in "line") betw. "used" and "leveraged". I agree there.... I'll accept the word, "leveraged."

 

What's pretty low is having a Forum-approved vendor's employee use the Forum to, essentially, generate a run of poor publicity against that vendor so as to achieve the employee's goals against his employer.

Rick admits that he wasn't laid off - his wages and benefits were cut due to the lousy economy. Obviously, he wasn't happy about that. So, he goes on the Forum to tell everyone all about it, and he says he was laid off, which wasn't true. Then, this week, he pops back up and says he had to use a "different approach" to "achieve [his] goals." Those are his words. I specifically asked whether his posts last week were designed to get his employer to restore his cut wages and benefits through the creation of bad press. Rick says WHAT ELSE IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN OTHER THAN RICK TRASHED HIS EMPLOYER ON THE FORUM FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT?

WAwatchnut - you're the one that's way off base here. Rick ADMITS he did this, and you're defending it. I have no axe to grind, other than to call out people who say and do things that are wrong. Too many in here are more than willing to simply let stupidity, underhanded acts, and outright lies go unchecked. I'm not one of them. Flame on all you want - I could care less.

I find it amazing that when a dealership makes a mistake, they're the first ones shouting, "Off with their head." But, if someone they happen to like acts like a total idiot, well, that's okay - mistakes happen. Talk about hypocrisy!

 

Yes, and I recall just a few month's back, the same original poster announcing to us on this forum that he had joined Maxie and lauding the company and how great they had become after the same company having earned a reputation on this forum for overcharging and misleading potential and actual buyers. MP first not so great, then wonderful, then s**ks, now wonderful. What is going on here. Business deals should speak for themselves, as that is all we are really interested in from the vendors posting here.

 

Let's be clear here (since you quoted me). My statement about "doing whatever it takes to support your family" never implied it was OK to use nefarious means to achieve a goal.

I was implying that the individual may have to sacrifice him/her self to do so.

 

Not leveraged either.

What's a salesperson without his sales base? When you are in sales you have no assets but the clients who trust in you and keep coming back. And that is us!

 

Exactly....he admittted as much with the cute little

 

MNvette,

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I see nothing underhanded about negotiating with your employer when you feel you bring something to the table that is not easily replaced. I still would like you to show me where I trashed MP anywhere.

 

Interesting assumptions but from the OP's original statement ("After a week of thought and negotiations I am now back with Maxie Price. Everything is right back where it was before I left.") I would interpret that to mean his salary and benefits remained reduced when he returned to MP. The OP was technically not laid off and in fact, I assumed he quit due to the reduced salary and benefits. Perhaps the OP simply considered a lower paying job is better than no job at all and returned to MP.

Let's all strive towards and hope for better times soon. I'm trying to do my part...I bought 2 new GM vehicles in the last few months. Buy American!