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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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All I can say is that Vararam works.


And show me one documented case of hydrolock using it. I've driven in torrential downpours without any problems. I'm sure if you drove through 2 ft of standing water, that would be another story. But then you would be an idiot.

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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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All I can say is that Vararam works.


And show me one documented case of hydrolock using it. I've driven in torrential downpours without any problems. I'm sure if you drove through 2 ft of standing water, that would be another story. But then you would be an idiot.

Well put. hydrolock is the last thing I worried about when deciding whether to install a CAI or not. I noticed a change right away when I installed my Vararam. I don't notice it now - maybe I am just used to it. I can't tell. :o
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 04:56 AM
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The cold air systems like the Vortex Rammer and the Vararam have solid records of increasing horsepower. It is not always apparent on a dyno,but you can feel it seat of the pants on the road manifested as increased throttle response and drivability. It would be similar to driving your car on a cool clear Autumn morning with fairly high humidity or driving your motorcycle in the rain. Dragstrip stats show a definite performance gain on the ram air style cold air systems. I love mine and wouldn't go back!
seat of the pants is about 25rwhp....so you are saying that a CAI adds 20-25hp? I think it feels faster because your wallet is $500 lighter. You may get a little better throttle response and about 5-10hp with a CAI but thats about it at most.
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and I am sorry but as far as 1/4 mile times with stock vs CAI you would have to make multiple runs stock and multiple runs with CAI all on the same day, same lane, same track conditions....there are so many different variables that go into that. Parts like CAI work well in conjunction with parts like headers, TB, etc. Once you get the air in you have to get it out as well.

I just find it hard to believe that a $500-600 CAI is worth more than double what another descent CAI that could be had for $200-300. Theyre all going to make about the same hp and give the same throttle response. If not please pm me and show me otherwise
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by longrodlx
and I am sorry but as far as 1/4 mile times with stock vs CAI you would have to make multiple runs stock and multiple runs with CAI all on the same day, same lane, same track conditions....there are so many different variables that go into that. Parts like CAI work well in conjunction with parts like headers, TB, etc. Once you get the air in you have to get it out as well.

I just find it hard to believe that a $500-600 CAI is worth more than double what another descent CAI that could be had for $200-300. Theyre all going to make about the same hp and give the same throttle response. If not please pm me and show me otherwise
Please review my earlier post. You're right, test conditions have to be controlled to get valid results. Callaway ran "multiple runs stock and multiple runs with CAI all on the same day, same lane, same track conditions". During testing, we also monitor inlet air temperature, manifold pressure and other operating conditions to get a complete picture of what's actually happening.

On 10/10/2007, three consecutive passes were made completely stock at 6:31, 6:40 and 6:47 pm. The results were 11.94 to 11.97 sec at 115.8 to 116.2 mph.

Then the pre-installed panel was removed to open the radiator shroud and the Honker was installed. Three more passes were made at 7:20, 7:31 and 8:40 pm - 11.67 to 11.70 sec at 117.9 to 118.3 mph. (We prepared the car in advance so the Honker could be installed in about 30 minutes.

In the preceding chassis dyno test, we made three pulls completely stock, then removed the panel to open the shroud, installed the Honker and made three more passes. The tests were performed on the same day, data is SAE corrected.
OE, 3 Run Avg = 386.4 rwhp/ 383.6 lb-ft;
IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 81 / 100 - 210 / 210
Honker, 3 Run Avg = 402.9 rwhp/ 395.9 lb-ft;
IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 77 / 79 - 212 / 216

Conclusion: 16.5 rwhp/12.3 lb-ft increase with Honker vs LS3 OEM air cleaner system.

Different intake systems produce different performance.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by longrodlx
seat of the pants is about 25rwhp....so you are saying that a CAI adds 20-25hp? I think it feels faster because your wallet is $500 lighter. You may get a little better throttle response and about 5-10hp with a CAI but thats about it at most.
Well, you're right, your wallet will definitely be lighter. The cost of the Corvette CAI systems is outrageous. I personally couldn't justify the cost of some of these systems, but we all decide what is too much for anything. And everything on the Corvette costs way too much. I still can't believe I paid over $1200 for a new exhaust system ($1200 for some mandrel bent tubing and 2 mufflers????). But paying $400-$500 for some plastic tubing and an oiled filter, I just can't even begin to justify that!
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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I just find it hard to believe that a $500-600 CAI is worth more than double what another descent CAI that could be had for $200-300. Theyre all going to make about the same hp and give the same throttle response. If not please pm me and show me otherwise
There is no TRUE CAI for that price-200-300 except maybe the XCELERATOR,which is a CALLAWAY knockoff.Plenty of big filters out there (WHICH DO NEXT TO NOTHING) and only one for 200 bucks +-,the AIR RAID.
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