Oil Consumption
07-02-2009, 01:38 PM
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Oil Consumption
What is normal oil consumption? My check oil level message came up and I was wondering how often should I need to add oil. I've got an '07 C6.
07-02-2009, 02:01 PM
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You are going to get a different answer from your GM service manager than you are on the forum, I'll bet.
I would be comfortable with no more than 1/2 a quart every 2,000 or 3,000 miles........I went on a 2,300 mile trip recently -- all highway -- some high RPM passing on the two lane sections -- and did not use a drop of oil the entire trip.......as a matter of fact, according to the oil monitor, I only used 9% of the oil life in 2,300 miles!!
There have been people here who have had oil consumption issues (like a quart every 1,000 miles) and were told by GM service "that's normal"...NOT!........
I would be comfortable with no more than 1/2 a quart every 2,000 or 3,000 miles........I went on a 2,300 mile trip recently -- all highway -- some high RPM passing on the two lane sections -- and did not use a drop of oil the entire trip.......as a matter of fact, according to the oil monitor, I only used 9% of the oil life in 2,300 miles!!
There have been people here who have had oil consumption issues (like a quart every 1,000 miles) and were told by GM service "that's normal"...NOT!........
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07-02-2009, 02:06 PM
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You are going to get a different answer from your GM service manager that you are on the forum, I'll bet.
I would be comfortable with no more than 1/2 a quart every 2,000 or 3,000 miles........I went on a 2,300 mile trip recently -- all highway -- some high RPM passing on the two lane sections -- and did not use a drop of oil the entire trip.......as a matter of fact, according to the oil monitor, I only used 9% of the oil life in 2,300 miles!!
There have been people here who have had oil consumption issues (like a quart every 1,000 miles) and were told by GM service "that's normal"...NOT!........
I would be comfortable with no more than 1/2 a quart every 2,000 or 3,000 miles........I went on a 2,300 mile trip recently -- all highway -- some high RPM passing on the two lane sections -- and did not use a drop of oil the entire trip.......as a matter of fact, according to the oil monitor, I only used 9% of the oil life in 2,300 miles!!
There have been people here who have had oil consumption issues (like a quart every 1,000 miles) and were told by GM service "that's normal"...NOT!........
In addition, you really should check your oil once a week or so. Don't wait for a warning indicator.
07-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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GM bulletin
Subject: Information on Engine Oil Consumption Guidelines
Models: 2009 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Gasoline-Powered Light Duty Trucks Under 8500 LB GVW (Including Saturn)
2009 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2009 and Prior Saab 9-7X
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This bulletin is being revised to update the warranty information on vehicles and add model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-06-01-011E (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System).
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All engines require oil to lubricate and protect the load bearing and internal moving parts from wear including cylinder walls, pistons and piston rings. When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is consumed in the combustion process. As a result, varying rates of oil consumption are accepted as normal in all engines.
Oil Consumption
The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles referenced is 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi).
Important: This rate only applies to personal use vehicles, under warranty, that are driven in a non-aggressive manner and maintained in accordance with the appropriate maintenance schedule, with less than 58,000 km (36,000 mi), or driven at legal speeds in an unloaded (for trucks) condition.
Important: This rate does not apply to vehicles that are driven in an aggressive manner, at high RPM, high speeds, or in a loaded condition (for trucks). Oil consumption for vehicles driven under these conditions will be more.
Many factors can affect a customer's concern with oil consumption. Driving habits and vehicle maintenance vary from owner to owner. Thoroughly evaluate each case before deciding whether the vehicle in question has abnormal engine oil consumption.
Gasket and External Leaks
Inspect the oil pan and engine covers for leakage due to over-tightened, damaged, or out of place gaskets. Inspect oil lines and fittings for signs of leakage.
Improper Reading of the Oil Level Indicator (Dipstick)
Verify that the dipstick tube is fully seated in the block. When checking the oil level, make sure the dipstick is wiped clean before taking an oil level reading and fully depress the dipstick until the shoulder bottoms out on the dipstick tube. The dipstick should be the proper part number for the engine/vehicle that is being checked.
Notice: Operating your vehicle with an oil level that is below the minimum level indicated on the engine oil dipstick can result in severe engine damage. Repairs resulting from operating an engine with insufficient oil are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Important: Refer to Owner Manual in SI for checking and adding engine oil.
Not Waiting Long Enough After Running Engine to Check Oil Level
Some engines require more time than others for the oil to drain back into the crankcase. To assure a sufficient amount of oil has drained back to the crankcase, and an accurate reading can be obtained, the vehicle should be allowed to sit for at least 15 minutes, after the engine has been shut off, before taking an oil level reading. In order to ensure accurate results, the temperature of the oil should be close to the same temperature as the last time the oil level was checked.
Important: This does not apply to 2006-2009 Corvette Z06 equipped with the 7.0L LS7 and the 2009 Corvette ZR-1 with the 6.2L LS9 engines (dry sump). Follow the instructions in the Owner Manual for checking the oil in this application.
Improper Oil Fill After an Oil Change
Following an oil change, verify that the proper amount and type of oil was put in the engine and that the oil level on the dipstick is not above the full mark or below the add marks. Refer to the Owner Manual or Service Manual for information on recommended oil quantity, viscosity, and quality.
Aggressive Driving, High Speed or High RPM Driving
Aggressive driving and/or continuous driving at high speeds/high RPMs will increase oil consumption. Because this may not always be an everyday occurrence, it is hard to determine exactly how much the oil economy will be affected.
A higher rate of oil consumption is normal for vehicles equipped with manual transmissions that are driven aggressively. By "aggressive," we mean operation at high RPM (3,000 RPM to redline), with frequent use of engine braking (using the engine to slow the vehicle). Vehicles that are driven aggressively may consume engine oil at a rate of up to 0.946 L (1 quart) every 805 km (500 mi). This is normal for a vehicle that is driven aggressively. No repair is necessary. This characteristic does, however, require the owner to check the engine oil level at sufficiently frequent intervals, especially when driving aggressively, to assure the oil level remains within the recommended operating range. As the Owner’s Manual recommends, you should check the oil level every time you get fuel.
Towing or Heavy Usage
Towing a trailer will increase oil consumption and may cause oil consumption to fall below the normal accepted rate referenced in this bulletin for an unloaded vehicle in a personal use application. Large frontal area trailers will further increase the work required from the engine, especially at highway speeds, and thus increases the rate of oil consumption.
Crankcase Ventilation System
Verify that the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) system is operating properly. Blockages, restrictions, or damage to the PCV system can result in increased oil use.
Oil Dilution (Fuel and Water)
On vehicles that are usually driven short distances, less than 8 km (5 mi), especially in colder weather, unburned fuel and condensation generated from cold engine operation may not get hot enough to evaporate out of the oil. When this occurs, the dipstick may indicate that the oil level is over-full. Subsequent driving on a trip of sufficient length to enable normal engine operating temperature for 30 minutes or more, in order to vaporize excess moisture and fuel, may give the customer the impression of excessive oil consumption.
Engine Temperature
If an engine is run at overheated temperatures (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual) for more than brief periods, oil will oxidize at a faster than normal rate. In addition, gaskets may distort, piston rings may stick, and excessive wear may result. Verify that all cooling system components are in proper working order.
Engine Wear
Piston scuffing, excessive piston-to-wall clearance, tapered or out of round cylinders, worn, damaged or improperly installed valve guides, seals and piston rings will all cause an increase in oil consumption.
Measurement of Oil Consumption
Engines require a period of time to BREAK IN so that moving parts are properly seated. Therefore, oil economy should not be tested until the vehicle has accumulated at least 6400 km (4000 mi). An exception would be allowed only if an engine is reported to be using more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 1600 km (1000 mi).
•Verify that the engine has no external leaks. Repair as necessary.
•Verify that the engine is at normal operating temperature (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual).
•Park the vehicle on a level surface.
•Wait at least 15 minutes, after the engine is shut off, before checking the oil level to make sure that the oil has had time to drain back into the crankcase.
•Verify that the oil level is at, but not above, the full mark on the dipstick, and that the proper viscosity and quality oil are being used as recommended in the Owner's Manual.
•Record the vehicle mileage, date, and exact oil level on the form included in this bulletin.
•Ask the customer to verify the oil level, each time the vehicle is fueled, following steps 1-6 and return the vehicle to the dealership if the oil level is found at or below the add mark, 0.946 liter (1 qt) low. If the oil level remains above the add mark, the customer should continue to operate the vehicle and verify the engine oil level until 3200 km (2000 mi) has accumulated before returning to the dealership for a final evaluation.
•If the final evaluation shows that the engine uses more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi), follow the published symptom diagnostics as described in the appropriate Service Manual. If the oil consumption test shows that the engine uses less than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi), explain to the customer that their engine meets the guidelines for oil consumption.
Models: 2009 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Gasoline-Powered Light Duty Trucks Under 8500 LB GVW (Including Saturn)
2009 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2009 and Prior Saab 9-7X
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This bulletin is being revised to update the warranty information on vehicles and add model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-06-01-011E (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All engines require oil to lubricate and protect the load bearing and internal moving parts from wear including cylinder walls, pistons and piston rings. When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is consumed in the combustion process. As a result, varying rates of oil consumption are accepted as normal in all engines.
Oil Consumption
The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles referenced is 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi).
Important: This rate only applies to personal use vehicles, under warranty, that are driven in a non-aggressive manner and maintained in accordance with the appropriate maintenance schedule, with less than 58,000 km (36,000 mi), or driven at legal speeds in an unloaded (for trucks) condition.
Important: This rate does not apply to vehicles that are driven in an aggressive manner, at high RPM, high speeds, or in a loaded condition (for trucks). Oil consumption for vehicles driven under these conditions will be more.
Many factors can affect a customer's concern with oil consumption. Driving habits and vehicle maintenance vary from owner to owner. Thoroughly evaluate each case before deciding whether the vehicle in question has abnormal engine oil consumption.
Gasket and External Leaks
Inspect the oil pan and engine covers for leakage due to over-tightened, damaged, or out of place gaskets. Inspect oil lines and fittings for signs of leakage.
Improper Reading of the Oil Level Indicator (Dipstick)
Verify that the dipstick tube is fully seated in the block. When checking the oil level, make sure the dipstick is wiped clean before taking an oil level reading and fully depress the dipstick until the shoulder bottoms out on the dipstick tube. The dipstick should be the proper part number for the engine/vehicle that is being checked.
Notice: Operating your vehicle with an oil level that is below the minimum level indicated on the engine oil dipstick can result in severe engine damage. Repairs resulting from operating an engine with insufficient oil are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.
Important: Refer to Owner Manual in SI for checking and adding engine oil.
Not Waiting Long Enough After Running Engine to Check Oil Level
Some engines require more time than others for the oil to drain back into the crankcase. To assure a sufficient amount of oil has drained back to the crankcase, and an accurate reading can be obtained, the vehicle should be allowed to sit for at least 15 minutes, after the engine has been shut off, before taking an oil level reading. In order to ensure accurate results, the temperature of the oil should be close to the same temperature as the last time the oil level was checked.
Important: This does not apply to 2006-2009 Corvette Z06 equipped with the 7.0L LS7 and the 2009 Corvette ZR-1 with the 6.2L LS9 engines (dry sump). Follow the instructions in the Owner Manual for checking the oil in this application.
Improper Oil Fill After an Oil Change
Following an oil change, verify that the proper amount and type of oil was put in the engine and that the oil level on the dipstick is not above the full mark or below the add marks. Refer to the Owner Manual or Service Manual for information on recommended oil quantity, viscosity, and quality.
Aggressive Driving, High Speed or High RPM Driving
Aggressive driving and/or continuous driving at high speeds/high RPMs will increase oil consumption. Because this may not always be an everyday occurrence, it is hard to determine exactly how much the oil economy will be affected.
A higher rate of oil consumption is normal for vehicles equipped with manual transmissions that are driven aggressively. By "aggressive," we mean operation at high RPM (3,000 RPM to redline), with frequent use of engine braking (using the engine to slow the vehicle). Vehicles that are driven aggressively may consume engine oil at a rate of up to 0.946 L (1 quart) every 805 km (500 mi). This is normal for a vehicle that is driven aggressively. No repair is necessary. This characteristic does, however, require the owner to check the engine oil level at sufficiently frequent intervals, especially when driving aggressively, to assure the oil level remains within the recommended operating range. As the Owner’s Manual recommends, you should check the oil level every time you get fuel.
Towing or Heavy Usage
Towing a trailer will increase oil consumption and may cause oil consumption to fall below the normal accepted rate referenced in this bulletin for an unloaded vehicle in a personal use application. Large frontal area trailers will further increase the work required from the engine, especially at highway speeds, and thus increases the rate of oil consumption.
Crankcase Ventilation System
Verify that the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) system is operating properly. Blockages, restrictions, or damage to the PCV system can result in increased oil use.
Oil Dilution (Fuel and Water)
On vehicles that are usually driven short distances, less than 8 km (5 mi), especially in colder weather, unburned fuel and condensation generated from cold engine operation may not get hot enough to evaporate out of the oil. When this occurs, the dipstick may indicate that the oil level is over-full. Subsequent driving on a trip of sufficient length to enable normal engine operating temperature for 30 minutes or more, in order to vaporize excess moisture and fuel, may give the customer the impression of excessive oil consumption.
Engine Temperature
If an engine is run at overheated temperatures (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual) for more than brief periods, oil will oxidize at a faster than normal rate. In addition, gaskets may distort, piston rings may stick, and excessive wear may result. Verify that all cooling system components are in proper working order.
Engine Wear
Piston scuffing, excessive piston-to-wall clearance, tapered or out of round cylinders, worn, damaged or improperly installed valve guides, seals and piston rings will all cause an increase in oil consumption.
Measurement of Oil Consumption
Engines require a period of time to BREAK IN so that moving parts are properly seated. Therefore, oil economy should not be tested until the vehicle has accumulated at least 6400 km (4000 mi). An exception would be allowed only if an engine is reported to be using more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 1600 km (1000 mi).
•Verify that the engine has no external leaks. Repair as necessary.
•Verify that the engine is at normal operating temperature (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual).
•Park the vehicle on a level surface.
•Wait at least 15 minutes, after the engine is shut off, before checking the oil level to make sure that the oil has had time to drain back into the crankcase.
•Verify that the oil level is at, but not above, the full mark on the dipstick, and that the proper viscosity and quality oil are being used as recommended in the Owner's Manual.
•Record the vehicle mileage, date, and exact oil level on the form included in this bulletin.
•Ask the customer to verify the oil level, each time the vehicle is fueled, following steps 1-6 and return the vehicle to the dealership if the oil level is found at or below the add mark, 0.946 liter (1 qt) low. If the oil level remains above the add mark, the customer should continue to operate the vehicle and verify the engine oil level until 3200 km (2000 mi) has accumulated before returning to the dealership for a final evaluation.
•If the final evaluation shows that the engine uses more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi), follow the published symptom diagnostics as described in the appropriate Service Manual. If the oil consumption test shows that the engine uses less than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi), explain to the customer that their engine meets the guidelines for oil consumption.
07-02-2009, 02:12 PM
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07-02-2009, 02:22 PM
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How many miles since you changed the oil? As others have said...check it weekly.
07-02-2009, 02:38 PM
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The bulletin posted by 99SSCONV says it all.....oil consumption will be a function of your driving style & may vary from period to period. For example, an "agressive" afternoon of turning the twisties & rowing the gears on some mountain road will definitely consume more oil than a long Interstate road trip with the cruise control set at 70 or 75 for hours on end. Critical point though that was made in an earlier post is to check your oil level regularly versus waiting for a warning to show up on the DIC. I do that check every 2nd week in the morning, after the car's been sitting overnight.
07-02-2009, 02:38 PM
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How much oil you use is going to depend upon the car and how it is driven.
I drive mine easy and the engine seems to be pretty tight. I use no appreciable oil between changes which I do at about 7500 mile intervals. I had to add oil once on a road trip when the car was nearly new. Since then I've never added oil. It now has just over 30,000 miles.
On the other hand, you'll read here about those who are using oil.
I drive mine easy and the engine seems to be pretty tight. I use no appreciable oil between changes which I do at about 7500 mile intervals. I had to add oil once on a road trip when the car was nearly new. Since then I've never added oil. It now has just over 30,000 miles.
On the other hand, you'll read here about those who are using oil.
07-02-2009, 03:24 PM
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1 QT every 2000 miles after break-in is similar to my old 2006 350Z specs. Nissan replaced my motor twice for oil consumption and eventually I lemoned the car.
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Thank you so much for your post on oil consumption fellow Texan!! I have an '08 LS3 that's used excessive oil in the first 10K miles but it appears to have slowed down over the last 1K miles. Classic Chevy in Grapevine has me on a 1K mile schedule to monitor how much I'm burning. This is my first Vette and reading your post has given me some much needed peace of mind. I engine brake probably 80% of the time and wasn't aware how much more oil I would use by doing this. Assuming that she doesn't use more than 1 Qrt every 1K miles I should be able to sleep a little better at night now! Thanks again!!
02-18-2010, 03:42 PM
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I think they were grooming some future Service Managers in that class... 
02-18-2010, 03:48 PM
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From my 2008 coupe manual, pg 5-17:
Engine Oil
Checking Engine Oil (Except Z06)
If the CHECK OIL LEVEL message on the Driver
Information Center (DIC) comes on, check the engine
oil level right away. For more information, see Driver
Information Center (DIC) on page 3-49. You should
check the engine oil level regularly; this is an added
reminder.
It is a good idea to check the engine oil level every time
you get fuel. In order to get an accurate reading, the
oil must be warm and the vehicle must be on level
ground.
Engine Oil
Checking Engine Oil (Except Z06)
If the CHECK OIL LEVEL message on the Driver
Information Center (DIC) comes on, check the engine
oil level right away. For more information, see Driver
Information Center (DIC) on page 3-49. You should
check the engine oil level regularly; this is an added
reminder.
It is a good idea to check the engine oil level every time
you get fuel. In order to get an accurate reading, the
oil must be warm and the vehicle must be on level
ground.
02-18-2010, 04:20 PM
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LOL...what they taught you in training is exactly what I was quoted by the SM that I'm working with at the dealership! Maybe you were classmates??
02-18-2010, 05:12 PM
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FWIW, the oil consumption in our 2009 is almost too small to measure, probably about one quart per 10k-15k miles.
Our 2006 was better, checked it many times at about one quart per 20k miles.
Our 2006 was better, checked it many times at about one quart per 20k miles.
02-18-2010, 05:20 PM
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The 1000 mile number has been around since GM started putting chrome rings in their cars in the mid 60s. I did notice in the bulletin shown above the number was changed to 2000 miles.
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02-18-2010, 07:17 PM
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My first oil change was at one year and 7500 miles and the oil level was still at the full mark. My personal experience is that hard driving will cause more oil consumption. This includes high speed as well as high loads in any vehicle.
On the other hand some motors are just born with high oil consumption.
On the other hand some motors are just born with high oil consumption.
02-18-2010, 08:25 PM
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My engine uses oil, especially when I drive in the city because I like to ride the RPMs high. When I do mostly highway it doesn't burn much oil.
