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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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tell me why I should appreciate the Z51 Performance Package that is on my 2007 3LT coupe The poor roads in Michigan sure don't help!
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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tell me why I should appreciate the Z51 Performance Package that is on my 2007 3LT coupe The poor roads in Michigan sure don't help!
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The Z51 "Performance" Package was recommended by GM to those that wanted to autocross on smooth parking lots. If instead you drive on the poor roads in Michigan, or those of most other states, their is little to appreciate because this less compliant suspension tends to cause you to skitter and dart on bumpy roads and curves, causing a loss of control. But to those that think a sports car should ride like a buckboard, it is the perfect choice.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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and that's when the fight started...
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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tell me why I should appreciate the Z51 Performance Package that is on my 2007 3LT coupe The poor roads in Michigan sure don't help!
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For a cruiser car the Z51 option is not a good one. On the track the Z51 option is slightly faster with a professional driver.

I was just in Michigan on the Hot Rod Power Tour and my non Z51 Vette rode great, but some of the potholes I saw my car could have become hung up on.

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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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What we have beautiful roads here in Michigan
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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I live in NY(dont have to tell you all about the roads).
My Z51 handles just fine, thank you. Personally, I wouldnt own a Corvette w/o the Z51 package. To each his own.
OP, maybe you should swap sways and shocks.
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Can the Z51 Performance Package be removed, or should I just sell the car?
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NYC6: It would seem to me that there is more than just shocks and sways causing the rough ride. Feels like the tires are hard rubber, air pressure all the way around is 30 PSI. Once in a while I find a smooth stretch of road and all is well for a few miles.
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You're right, The Z51 Super Car tires arent as compliant as the base tires. Remove them and put some non run flats, that will help soften the ride as well.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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NYC6: It would seem to me that there is more than just shocks and sways causing the rough ride. Feels like the tires are hard rubber, air pressure all the way around is 30 PSI. Once in a while I find a smooth stretch of road and all is well for a few miles.
The Z51 has stiffer springs then the base C6. If you really like the car, and want to keep it, you could replace the springs with those from a base C6 and go with aftermarket shocks to get a softer ride. Get rid of the Goodyears and go with another brand, like Michelin or Firestone. You can still retain the run flats and get a decent ride with tires other then Goodyear. Michelin A/S ZP tires are a very good choice.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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The Z51 pkg. is like a "Grand Sport" minus the wide body and decals. Features include performance oriented suspension, handling, cooling, and driveline. Never found it a problem on the street with my '09.
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F55 would probably be a better option for the OP.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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I would just go to non-runflats and replace the shocks.
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Can the Z51 Performance Package be removed, or should I just sell the car?
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That seems a little extreme. As mentioned, the Z51 option was designed for the parking lot autocross enthusiast. I'm not fond of the Z51's cross-drilled rotors or its wider ratio gearing but the Z51 option has some nice features. The additional cooling capacities, the improved sway bars and frankly, most C6 owners would value its somewhat stiffer sprung suspension. If you find the ride too harsh, before you sell the car, I suggest you try different (softer) shock absorbers. No matter what you do, the Corvette is not designed to ride like a family sedan...it's a different beast altogether. I hope you get the ride quality you're looking for.
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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Sell the Vette...buy a VW Bettle
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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First, replace your tires with Michelin A/S ZP. Your car will roll up and over the bumps that make the GYs feel harsh.

After that, if you want a more compliant ride, change shocks. Research and talk to local Corvette owners who may give you a ride in their Vettes.

Anti-sway bars only come into play when cornering. The faster and sharper the cornering, the more the anti-sways will come into play. They do not impact the ride when going in a straight line on a smooth road. Bumps will briefly change the ride according to which anti-sways you have.
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I had a Z51 setup on my 2005, but didn't re-order it on my 2009. While I did appreciate the crisp handling and amazing grip of the SC tires, I also found that the ride was really bad over rough roads. I also wasn't too thrilled about seeing my front tires well worn by 12,000 miles.

When I got the F55 setup, I opted to add the Z51 sway bars. This seems to be an excellent compromise, in that the ride compliance is better than the Z51 while body roll is minimal. The base rubber is wearing much better than the SC tires, but I do notice a difference in traction. Those SC tires do stick!

Every suspension choice involves compromises; you just have to decide what qualities you value most. No C6, whether a base, a Z51, or an F55, handles badly. All are totally competent and can handle a variety of road conditions. In your case, I think the recommendations about changing out the tires are very good. The SC tires are very harsh, wear relatively fast, and are noisy. That should be your first mod. After that, you might consider changing the shocks if you still find the ride too harsh for your driving environment. You've been getting some really good advice here, and you should be able to fine tune your suspension without having to get rid of the car.
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
That seems a little extreme. As mentioned, the Z51 option was designed for the parking lot autocross enthusiast. I'm not fond of the Z51's cross-drilled rotors or its wider ratio gearing but the Z51 option has some nice features. The additional cooling capacities, the improved sway bars and frankly, most C6 owners would value its somewhat stiffer sprung suspension. If you find the ride too harsh, before you sell the car, I suggest you try different (softer) shock absorbers. No matter what you do, the Corvette is not designed to ride like a family sedan...it's a different beast altogether. I hope you get the ride quality you're looking for.

Very well said!
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Originally Posted by grum
Can the Z51 Performance Package be removed, or should I just sell the car?
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Sell it and get ya a 4X4....sounds like that's what ya need

(you can remove certain parts....but Z51 is MORE than just shocks/sway bars/tires)
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