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Old 01-30-2012, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
ALL cars lose value and fast,........from Lambo's to Kia's, prove I'm wrong and I'll send a prize. Z06 can be made fast.....real fast but do you sacrifice driveability?? Probably. ZR1 starts with better platform and has more potential for sure. Holds value better ?.....hell no! Both are lousy as investments so just enjoy them and with whatever route you go with on the mods.
I agree with all the above accept the driveability part for the most part. There are a number of 700whp Z06's (I know an APS Z06 personally) that you would never know it wasn't stock until you hammer it.
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Originally Posted by PHXAZ06
The OP did. Read his post. He's modding the Z06 to get equivalent HP as the ZR1.
Duh.
Duh? You need to learn to read! His question says ZR1 to Z-06
says nothing about being modded!
Old 01-30-2012, 10:44 PM
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Duh? You need to learn to read! His question says ZR1 to Z-06
says nothing about being modded!
The OP is pretty specific about modding the engine...
Old 01-30-2012, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Duh? You need to learn to read! His question says ZR1 to Z-06
says nothing about being modded!
The OP is pretty specific about modding the engine. The post stongly implies that the question is whether you can mod a Z06 to get ZR1 performance at less than ZR1 cost.
Old 01-30-2012, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DSOMC6
I agree with all the above accept the driveability part for the most part. There are a number of 700whp Z06's (I know an APS Z06 personally) that you would never know it wasn't stock until you hammer it.
Good to know but maybe I missed one word.....how about 'durability' ? so does your comment still apply? if so, good to know but still, the ZR with a pulley, underdrive, and tune is up there in the hp dept with a comfort feeling of both reliability and durability....... and easy to go back to stock

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Old 01-30-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Duh? You need to learn to read! His question says ZR1 to Z-06
says nothing about being modded!
Move on to the second sentence oh great reader.
Duh II.
Old 01-30-2012, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PHXAZ06
Move on to the second sentence oh great reader.
Duh II.
Duh 3 to you! I will give that you seem to know the difference between
a question from a statement!
If want to hang with my Z-06 you better be modded! Stock Zr1 wont do it!
The old 638 with the extra weight ain't hanging!
Old 01-30-2012, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Duh 3 to you! I will give that you seem to know the difference between
a question from a statement!
If want to hang with my Z-06 you better be modded! Stock Zr1 wont do it!
The old 638 with the extra weight ain't hanging!
Apples to Oranges, I will take you on.
And OP was talking about modding a Z06.
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Duh 3 to you! I will give that you seem to know the difference between
a question from a statement!
If want to hang with my Z-06 you better be modded! Stock Zr1 wont do it!
The old 638 with the extra weight ain't hanging!
Since you're having trouble reading, maybe you'll do better counting.
There's 4 posts telling you the OP is modding the Z06.
Duh III.
Old 01-31-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by abstruse1
What's the difference between a fully loaded ZR1 and a Z06 (same year, also fully loaded), beside the engine and price?

If the cars were identical except for the engines, one might be better off starting with the Z06 and building up a great engine, from the bottom up, with FI of some kind.

But if the ZR1 has features not available on the Z06, maybe not.
I own a loaded 2011 Z06. I almost purchased a 2010 ZR1, but in the end decided I wanted to order a new 2011 Z06.

It has the Z07 and CFZ options as well as everything else. The only difference between mine and a 2011 ZR1 is the engine and drive train. I have all of the same parts otherwise. I am in the minority that I prefer to have the LS7 motor. 7100 RPM Redline appealed to me as well as the upgraded 2011 x-pipe on the exhaust among other things.

Can't go wrong with either, but I do not feel like I own any less of a car in comparison to a ZR1. Also, I don't mod and don't plan to....when I hit the gas it still goes plenty fast and looks great in the garage.

Good luck with your decision.

Regards,
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:25 AM
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Roof, clutch, hood, transmission, engine. Not sure if the rear end and drive shaft are different but they maybe. Not sure if a 2012 z06 has PTM or the free driving school.
Old 01-31-2012, 09:29 AM
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I have an 06' ZO6 bought new for under $66K, with 200 lbs less weight hanging over the nose than a ZR1. Think I'll be keeping this one for awhile.
Old 01-31-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Roof, clutch, hood, transmission, engine. Not sure if the rear end and drive shaft are different but they maybe. Not sure if a 2012 z06 has PTM or the free driving school.
Well you got 3 out of 5 right...roof and hood are same (sans window ) if you buy the CFZ and CF hood option on the Z06. Yes to the PTM, no to the driving school on an optioned '12 Z06.

Originally Posted by Minnesota Scott
I own a loaded 2011 Z06. I almost purchased a 2010 ZR1, but in the end decided I wanted to order a new 2011 Z06.

It has the Z07 and CFZ options as well as everything else. The only difference between mine and a 2011 ZR1 is the engine and drive train. I have all of the same parts otherwise. I am in the minority that I prefer to have the LS7 motor. 7100 RPM Redline appealed to me as well as the upgraded 2011 x-pipe on the exhaust among other things.

Can't go wrong with either, but I do not feel like I own any less of a car in comparison to a ZR1. Also, I don't mod and don't plan to....when I hit the gas it still goes plenty fast and looks great in the garage.

Good luck with your decision.

Regards,
Scott
Old 01-31-2012, 09:44 AM
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Well, I guess it really doesn't matter to me as I could barely afford the 1990 C4 I just purchased with 68k on the clock.
Old 01-31-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by srtclg1007


Factory horsepower is always better. Especially for that 5 yr warranty Racer mentioned.
I appreciate the point but IMO factory horse power is not necessarily better. Even between factory stock Corvettes one might be better off with the lesser hp, naturally aspirated Z06 versus the forced induction on the ZR1....it depends how you use your car. In general, I'd much rather have a fully built, naturally aspirated Lingenfelter or Katech motor versus a stock Chevy power plant....even over a ZR1 engine. Forced induction is not the be-all end-all for everyone.

Originally Posted by RedZ4me
ALL cars lose value and fast,........from Lambo's to Kia's, prove I'm wrong and I'll send a prize. Z06 can be made fast.....real fast but do you sacrifice driveability?? Probably. ZR1 starts with better platform and has more potential for sure. Holds value better ?.....hell no! Both are lousy as investments so just enjoy them and with whatever route you go with on the mods.
What? I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree. Both the ZR1 and the Z06 are great cars but it depends what you want out of a car and how you use your car. I don't feel the ZR1 is a "better platform" nor do I feel a ZR1 has more potential than a Z06. In fact, for me it's just the opposite. Much depends on your definition of "drivability" but from my experience modding a car does not mean sacrificing drivability. In fact, modifying a car vastly improves drivability.

You're 100% right about cars losing value. The fickle, rare collector car market notwithstanding, cars are not investments. You own a car for its utility....to drive and enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Scott
I own a loaded 2011 Z06. I almost purchased a 2010 ZR1, but in the end decided I wanted to order a new 2011 Z06.

It has the Z07 and CFZ options as well as everything else. The only difference between mine and a 2011 ZR1 is the engine and drive train. I have all of the same parts otherwise. I am in the minority that I prefer to have the LS7 motor. 7100 RPM Redline appealed to me as well as the upgraded 2011 x-pipe on the exhaust among other things.

Can't go wrong with either, but I do not feel like I own any less of a car in comparison to a ZR1. Also, I don't mod and don't plan to....when I hit the gas it still goes plenty fast and looks great in the garage.

Good luck with your decision.

Regards,
Scott
But you do, in EVERY performance category.

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Old 01-31-2012, 10:23 AM
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If you are into modding and want the best performer for the dollar...You could get a used Z06 and mod it to 550-580rwhp with stock or near stock driveability all day long thats also very dependable.....add some coilovers, good tyres, sways, etc...and ZR1s will need to get out of your way.
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
I appreciate the point but IMO factory horse power is not necessarily better. Even between factory stock Corvettes one might be better off with the lesser hp, naturally aspirated Z06 versus the forced induction on the ZR1....it depends how you use your car. In general, I'd much rather have a fully built, naturally aspirated Lingenfelter or Katech motor versus a stock Chevy power plant....even over a ZR1 engine. Forced induction is not the be-all end-all for everyone.
I think he means by having a warranty, and you would be in the minority if you would rather have a built motor no warranty versus a warrantied motor if they produced the same hp.



Originally Posted by Wayne O
What? I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree. Both the ZR1 and the Z06 are great cars but it depends what you want out of a car and how you use your car. I don't feel the ZR1 is a "better platform" nor do I feel a ZR1 has more potential than a Z06.
Maybe not, but out of the box, the ZR1 clearly dominates in EVERY performance category, you know that. Potential is a funny word..............I like when they use it on athletes, "but he has/had so much potential".
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
All that said, we're talking about the two best vettes ever made. Pretty tough to go wrong either way.
End of story.


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