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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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My baby Crystal Red 2009 C6 Coupe Z51.
At 18,600 mile replaced wheels and tires.
I hand touque every wheel to factury spec.
Last week after 11,000 miles, I spotted a missing nut.
After a closer inspection found the lug had snap off.

My questions, is how common is this?

It makes me want to trade her off for Grand Sport.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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never heard of it before, but arp makes replacements.

most everything Ive seen from them is supposed to be stronger than stock.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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My questions, is how common is this?
Not common.....can't remember any similar reports at all.


It makes me want to trade her off for Grand Sport.
If you're looking at this as a reason to trade, just do it. GS has the same kind of studs. Be sure to post pics of the new GS.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Awwwww!! As a retired steelworker, I can tell you that it isn't all that uncommon for something like this to happen. There could have been a minute crack or bubble in the stud that was never seen by anyone and the strain made it break. Let it go and enjoy your car. Good luck.....
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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P.S........By letting it go I do mean to have it fixed for sure. Just don't worry about it......
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I've snapped a stud before but it was my own fault. If all the lug nuts were torqued properly (albeit 11,000 miles ago) it's extremely rare that one stud would break. I wouldn't consider it cause to trade-in the car. FWIW the OEM C6 studs are pretty easy to install.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Very easy to replace and as stated above, is easy to understand if you understand the way metal displays its properties. Not common on cars, but certainly nothing to worry about. Your car and the GS would have the same parts (either axle shaft in the rear or hub in the front), so if you want to trade for a new GS, go for it, but you can't use this as a reason...

Remember that these studs are not used on aircraft or the space shuttle, so they are rolled on a machine and tossed in a bin...they are not x-rayed for flaws. Even if one has a flaw, there are four more there to hold the wheel on, so they are just not that crucial. For $3, you can get a replacement from the Dorman drawers at any auto parts store.

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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perhaps over torqued at a dealer visit recently?
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Originally Posted by vintagez
perhaps over torqued at a dealer visit recently?
This is not a common failure that I have ever seen unless grossly over-torqued. It certainly is possible to have a defective wheel stud installed at the factory but I believe it to be uncommon.
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Originally Posted by FordCNC
My baby Crystal Red 2009 C6 Coupe Z51.
At 18,600 mile replaced wheels and tires.
I hand touque every wheel to factury spec.
Last week after 11,000 miles, I spotted a missing nut.
After a closer inspection found the lug had snap off.

My questions, is how common is this?

It makes me want to trade her off for Grand Sport.
Sounds like you are looking for a reason to get a GS
I love my 08 coupe
I think you might have drank the kool-aid. Must be a GS in you future
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Just be glad you didn't snap all five of them at the same time, like happened to my friend's SUV.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FordCNC
My baby Crystal Red 2009 C6 Coupe Z51.
At 18,600 mile replaced wheels and tires.
I hand touque every wheel to factury spec.
Last week after 11,000 miles, I spotted a missing nut.
After a closer inspection found the lug had snap off.

My questions, is how common is this?

It makes me want to trade her off for Grand Sport.
Same thing happened to my ex's 98 POS Caddy ETC and no, I did not do it... Stud sheared off even with the wheel...
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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It happend on my 07 on two different wheels same as you washing the car one day and noticed a lung missing I had to have them replace the all the studs on each of the two wheels.

I had HRE rims so i started worrying if it was them, never found the root cause but no repeat occurances since then.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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When you replace the stud do an inspection of the hub where the wheel fits. On my 86 I had one stud that kept breaking on my left front wheel. The same location had 3 broken studs about 2 months apart. After checking things several times I realized there was a slight metal burr that was keeping the wheel from seating properly on the hub. I used a file to clean the burr off the hub and never broke the stud again.

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Happens more than you'd think. I swap to track wheels several times a year on my Vette, and usually winter tires on my daily cars. More than once, during removal, lugs snapped off in my hand, barely using any torque. I always install my wheels to spec with a torque wrench, so don't know why, but happens.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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IF you greased the threads and nut (and you should never do so)! It will allow way too much torque on the stud and they WILL break. If you didn't grease them it could be just a flaw in the stud. Replace it and make sure the torque is correct and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Originally Posted by GMJim
IF you greased the threads and nut (and you should never do so)! It will allow way too much torque on the stud and they WILL break. If you didn't grease them it could be just a flaw in the stud. Replace it and make sure the torque is correct and you shouldn't have any problems.
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For the past over 11 years (ever since I started driving modern vettes), I have been using a torque wrench for installing wheels with dry wheel studs. For over 30 years prior to that, it was a 4-way tire tool and a shot of WD40 on the wheel studs and torquing by my experienced hand & arm with never a problem. I assume I avoided problems with the WD40 because I wasn't using a torque wrench to judge proper torque with lube studs?? I agree that lubed lugs with a torque wrench is an invitation to over-torquing.
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A 10% over torque using lube or anti-seize will not cause the stud to fail. There is probably a ~100% safety factor built into the design of the fastener.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
A 10% over torque using lube or anti-seize will not cause the stud to fail. There is probably a ~100% safety factor built into the design of the fastener.
Negative! The torque value of a wheel stud is determined not only from the clamping force but also the friction created by the tapered part of the nut on the tapered part of the rim. Next time you're in the junk yard try a little experiment. Put some grease on a wheel nut and stud and start tightening. I'll bet the stud snaps off before you get the torque wrench to 50 lbs.
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Originally Posted by GMJim
Negative! The torque value of a wheel stud is determined not only from the clamping force but also the friction created by the tapered part of the nut on the tapered part of the rim. Next time you're in the junk yard try a little experiment. Put some grease on a wheel nut and stud and start tightening. I'll bet the stud snaps off before you get the torque wrench to 50 lbs.
Interesting!
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