2013 cags?
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I don't have a M6, so this CAGS thing don't effect me ..
But I am really confused about why you would want to short the fuse to "blow" it .. then re-install this blown fuse.
If you have a blown fuse, it becomes nothing but an open circuit ... you could do the same thing by just removing the fuse altogether ... A blown fuse and no fuse at all are the same exact thing ... no electrical current passes through
What am I missing here?
But I am really confused about why you would want to short the fuse to "blow" it .. then re-install this blown fuse.
If you have a blown fuse, it becomes nothing but an open circuit ... you could do the same thing by just removing the fuse altogether ... A blown fuse and no fuse at all are the same exact thing ... no electrical current passes through
What am I missing here?
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I don't have a M6, so this CAGS thing don't effect me ..
But I am really confused about why you would want to short the fuse to "blow" it .. then re-install this blown fuse.
If you have a blown fuse, it becomes nothing but an open circuit ... you could do the same thing by just removing the fuse altogether ... A blown fuse and no fuse at all are the same exact thing ... no electrical current passes through
What am I missing here?
But I am really confused about why you would want to short the fuse to "blow" it .. then re-install this blown fuse.
If you have a blown fuse, it becomes nothing but an open circuit ... you could do the same thing by just removing the fuse altogether ... A blown fuse and no fuse at all are the same exact thing ... no electrical current passes through
What am I missing here?
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Everything you ever wanted to know about CAGS and how to disable it. Scroll to the bottom for the "smart fuse" option. http://xse.com/leres/z06/cags.html
Last edited by K.Shupe; Aug 26, 2012 at 08:38 PM.
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The solenoid is still disabled but the computer doesn't like it.
The fuse method works better for some reason.
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From: Willis TX
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I'm really missing something.
The computer isn't 'reading' a resistor - it's energizing the solenoid, which causes current to flow through the solenoid's coil. If too little (or, I reckon, too much) current flows, the ECM sees that as a fault. That's why just unplugging the harness sets a CEL (at least, it did on my '99 Camaro).
When a resistor is subbed for the solenoid, current passes through it instead, and as long as it's within the acceptable range in the ECM's mind, everything works. If the resistor value that worked on 2012s doesn't work on 2013s, then the electrical characteristics of the solenoid have changed. Or something along those lines (maybe it's energizing both solenoids simultaneously now?)...
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The eliminator plug thing "doesn't work" on a '13 model by the resistance value read by the computer when it engages the solenoid. The wrong resistance the computer is reading causes the computer to display the "check engine light" (CEL) which also causes the computer to display "reduce max speed".
The solenoid is still disabled but the computer doesn't like it.
The fuse method works better for some reason.
The solenoid is still disabled but the computer doesn't like it.
The fuse method works better for some reason.
Still wouldn't get rid of the dashboard light, if that matters. If you tune out CAGS does the light go away?
Last edited by wjnjr; Aug 27, 2012 at 06:22 PM.
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From: Willis TX
The computer isn't 'reading' a resistor - it's energizing the solenoid, which causes current to flow through the solenoid's coil. If too little (or, I reckon, too much) current flows, the ECM sees that as a fault. That's why just unplugging the harness sets a CEL (at least, it did on my '99 Camaro).
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Look no further than your right foot - accelerate to about 1800-2000 rpm in first: the light will go out and you can shift normally.
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Not that it matters, really.
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That light flashes by so quickly I never see it. You really shouldn't be looking down there anyway when accelerating in 1st gear.
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One-to-Four Shift Light
(Manual Transmission)
This light will come on when:
• The engine coolant temperature is higher than
169°F (76°C),
• the vehicle is going 15 to 19 mph (24 to 31 km/h) and
• the vehicle 21 percent throttle or less.
(Manual Transmission)
This light will come on when:
• The engine coolant temperature is higher than
169°F (76°C),
• the vehicle is going 15 to 19 mph (24 to 31 km/h) and
• the vehicle 21 percent throttle or less.
Shiting to 2nd before 20mph, really?
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In traffic, sometimes it takes the Kia in front of me, a while to accelerate past 20 MPH. My LS7's torque is more then ample to pull me along in second gear at 15 MPH, thus I like to shift into second gear at 15 MPH(1150 RPM in 2nd gear) in traffic, instead of SLOWLY increasing my speed, in traffic, from 15 MPH to 20 MPH, staying in first gear, just so I can get around the skip shift feature. I have been driving a standard shift car since learning to drive my Mom's 1952 Chevy back in 1954, and I never had to worry about Nanny telling when I should shift gears back then, and I don't want Nanny telling me when to shift gears now. $20 for a CAGS eliminator, and I never have to adjust my driving to fit Nanny's demands.
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In GM's (and Ford's, and Chrysler's) defense, it does save fuel - at least as measured by the EPA standards.
Ford dropped CAGS from the Mustang GT this year, and the city MPG dropped two points. 2011/12 was 17/26 for the M6, this year it's 15/26.
That's a big deal from a fleet average perspective.
Ford dropped CAGS from the Mustang GT this year, and the city MPG dropped two points. 2011/12 was 17/26 for the M6, this year it's 15/26.
That's a big deal from a fleet average perspective.
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In traffic, sometimes it takes the Kia in front of me, a while to accelerate past 20 MPH. My LS7's torque is more then ample to pull me along in second gear at 15 MPH, thus I like to shift into second gear at 15 MPH(1150 RPM in 2nd gear) in traffic, instead of SLOWLY increasing my speed, in traffic, from 15 MPH to 20 MPH, staying in first gear, just so I can get around the skip shift feature. I have been driving a standard shift car since learning to drive my Mom's 1952 Chevy back in 1954, and I never had to worry about Nanny telling when I should shift gears back then, and I don't want Nanny telling me when to shift gears now. $20 for a CAGS eliminator, and I never have to adjust my driving to fit Nanny's demands.
The C6 Pushbar! I can hear it now...
"Tired of hitting CAGS due to the Kia/Hyundai/Smart car in front of you in traffic? No problem, install the C6 Pushbar and just plow them out of the way. Don't forget to turn on your signature "get to the right lane" tramp stamp light when you go by!"
