Did a little test with the factory nav and what bs..
10-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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ok ran outside and did what you said and it still gave me the exact same 9 turn route to work when there are only 2 turns. believe me when i tell you in the last week i have tried everything and nothing works. all crappy routes. when i am fully done testing the oem nav against the garmin for the use of accurate routes i will post. mind you i am not doing this to say one brand is better than the other. i am just using the garmin as a second opinion for the same routes i program using the oem nav.
Hopefully you can get something that will work for you
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10-28-2012, 03:14 PM
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If you or anyone who wants to be added to our contact list to email when these packages will be ready to order just send info to
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Devan has a file started with a list of over 100 people waiting patiently for us to tell them its time to install a new Kenwood
If you or anyone who wants to be added to our contact list to email when these packages will be ready to order just send info to
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How good is the FM receiver?
How long does it take to boot?
IS the wiring harness setup to work on non nav cars?
I ask because I bought what was supposed to be Kenwoods best for my 82 Vette & I hated it from day one, but could not return it.
That was $330 wasted.
I will send an email anyway as the thought of not having to use my iphone & Tom Tom (no place to put phone to see properly & my Tom Tom, which I've not seen mentioned, has never steered me wrong) intrigues me.
10-28-2012, 03:20 PM
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What model Kenwood so I can research specs?
How good is the FM receiver?
How long does it take to boot?
IS the wiring harness setup to work on non nav cars?
I ask because I bought what was supposed to be Kenwoods best for my 82 Vette & I hated it from day one, but could not return it.
That was $330 wasted.
I will send an email anyway as the thought of not having to use my iphone & Tom Tom (no place to put phone to see properly & my Tom Tom, which I've not seen mentioned, has never steered me wrong) intrigues me.
How good is the FM receiver?
How long does it take to boot?
IS the wiring harness setup to work on non nav cars?
I ask because I bought what was supposed to be Kenwoods best for my 82 Vette & I hated it from day one, but could not return it.
That was $330 wasted.
I will send an email anyway as the thought of not having to use my iphone & Tom Tom (no place to put phone to see properly & my Tom Tom, which I've not seen mentioned, has never steered me wrong) intrigues me.
10-28-2012, 03:21 PM
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What model Kenwood so I can research specs?
How good is the FM receiver?
How long does it take to boot?
IS the wiring harness setup to work on non nav cars?
I ask because I bought what was supposed to be Kenwoods best for my 82 Vette & I hated it from day one, but could not return it.
That was $330 wasted.
I will send an email anyway as the thought of not having to use my iphone & Tom Tom (no place to put phone to see properly & my Tom Tom, which I've not seen mentioned, has never steered me wrong) intrigues me.
How good is the FM receiver?
How long does it take to boot?
IS the wiring harness setup to work on non nav cars?
I ask because I bought what was supposed to be Kenwoods best for my 82 Vette & I hated it from day one, but could not return it.
That was $330 wasted.
I will send an email anyway as the thought of not having to use my iphone & Tom Tom (no place to put phone to see properly & my Tom Tom, which I've not seen mentioned, has never steered me wrong) intrigues me.
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DNX 6190HD
DNX 6990HD
DNX 7190HD
DNX 9990HD
The 6990 and 9990 are the two I would select from as these are eXcelon units that have 2 year warranty versus 1 on the other models.
We are 100% fully online authorized Kenwood dealers as well
10-28-2012, 03:23 PM
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10-28-2012, 03:27 PM
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10-28-2012, 03:32 PM
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THANKS; but im not done yet;eventually i will have all info regarding the oem nav posted. I will at least have fact based studies done instead of just my opinion and saying yea the oem nav sucks. all posts will be findings from one gps compared to the oem nav and we'll see how the routes compare. Just a little fun and some informative info. hopefully i can get my results posted in a week.
10-28-2012, 03:37 PM
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Perhaps this is true...but, in my opinion the OEM Nav is worthless and GM is asking me to drive a nail with a wrench. Who is to blame in that situation? LOL
Bobby
The OEM NAV sucks plain and simple. Set up is not intutitive, the graphics look like they came from a 28 Bit Atari system.
Can it be made to work with the various settings…I guess so, if you like reading stereo instructions. The best and most successful electronics and software systems are easy to figure out and use…this one is not.
IMO it is the biggest disappointment I have with the C6 (of course I did not buy the car for the NAV), but in a $60K plus car, GM has to do better than this….hopefully the C7 will have a much needed NAV improvement.
Till then, I’ll use my $100 Garmin and wait till DD Mods gest the new harness and Kenwood sorted (or maybe the new iPod Mini) and dump the OEM head unit.
What a piece of crap!
Can it be made to work with the various settings…I guess so, if you like reading stereo instructions. The best and most successful electronics and software systems are easy to figure out and use…this one is not.
IMO it is the biggest disappointment I have with the C6 (of course I did not buy the car for the NAV), but in a $60K plus car, GM has to do better than this….hopefully the C7 will have a much needed NAV improvement.
Till then, I’ll use my $100 Garmin and wait till DD Mods gest the new harness and Kenwood sorted (or maybe the new iPod Mini) and dump the OEM head unit.
What a piece of crap!
Bobby
10-28-2012, 03:44 PM
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If you find it worthless, you're doing something wrong.
10-28-2012, 04:26 PM
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You can expect strange things to happen when you rely solely on a GPS system for navigation to strange places.
I've traveled to almost every State in the US, but I took my Garmin, an Atlas, a laptop to access Googlemaps or Mapquest, individual State maps, picked up local special maps along the way, and I have still had to ask local people for directions that are also sometimes wrong.
You can't have too much navigational information.
Nothing is foolproof, including the driver.
I've traveled to almost every State in the US, but I took my Garmin, an Atlas, a laptop to access Googlemaps or Mapquest, individual State maps, picked up local special maps along the way, and I have still had to ask local people for directions that are also sometimes wrong.
You can't have too much navigational information.
Nothing is foolproof, including the driver.
10-28-2012, 04:30 PM
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Jim maybe you could give me some pointers on my on going experiment. it seems i have the settings on all the proper settings for easy travel. i dont need poi's or anything of that nature i just want to go from A-B. i just want to go on 5-10 mile routes that i have used my entire life and compare those findings to my garmin gps and see the difference. i don't think i am doing any thing wrong on the oem nav and the findings so far have been vastly different from the garmin, FOR THE WORST. Any help to conclude my studies (if you can think of any) would be appreciated. RON
10-28-2012, 04:57 PM
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I agree with you Jim. I have not put a lot of effort into learning about the system because it is difficult to learn (non-intuitive). So I shouldn't use the word "worthless".
I use a Magellen for work, and I travel approximately 1500 miles a week. Learning to use it was very easy. Learning to use the GM unit is not.
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10-28-2012, 05:16 PM
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Jim maybe you could give me some pointers on my on going experiment. it seems i have the settings on all the proper settings for easy travel. i dont need poi's or anything of that nature i just want to go from A-B. i just want to go on 5-10 mile routes that i have used my entire life and compare those findings to my garmin gps and see the difference. i don't think i am doing any thing wrong on the oem nav and the findings so far have been vastly different from the garmin, FOR THE WORST. Any help to conclude my studies (if you can think of any) would be appreciated. RON
Note that nearly everything in the nav system can/must be customized for both fob #1 and fob #2.
After you enter the destination and it presents the suggested route, I always push "3 Routes" to see what the other choices are. Sometimes better, sometimes worse, sometimes just different.
You can modify the route your C6 nav has chosen, but normally I don't bother- if I don't like what it chose, I just drive "visually" until the system re-routes in a more logical way. The GPS gives suggestions, not orders.
All nav units sometimes provide goofy routings. Our C6 nav takes me significantly out of my way to drive the 10 miles to my former office, and nothing will make it provide a better route. But it does a nice job of routing to where our daughter used to work, while our Garmins took us on a tour of the countryside when set for her place.
CF member talon90 is the real expert on C6 nav, he also has written a very good tutorial which is on his website. If you download that into your laptop and spend a few hours in your parked car going through it (don't kill the battery!), you'll be amazed at all the things this unit can do. But there is no denying that it takes time and work to understand.
10-28-2012, 05:22 PM
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I agree with you Jim. I have not put a lot of effort into learning about the system because it is difficult to learn (non-intuitive). So I shouldn't use the word "worthless".
I use a Magellen for work, and I travel approximately 1500 miles a week. Learning to use it was very easy. Learning to use the GM unit is not.
Bobby
I use a Magellen for work, and I travel approximately 1500 miles a week. Learning to use it was very easy. Learning to use the GM unit is not.
Bobby
No nav system is perfect (see post #14), I've tried them all and have gotten both good and bad results from each. For my situation, the factory nav works pretty well and is what I prefer. But your situation is bound to be different from mine.
10-28-2012, 05:58 PM
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At the risk of agreeing to disagree, I use mine quite often and have had no issues with it. I also have a portable Magellan (the latest most advanced with 7" screen) and a 2012 Mercedes with a factory NAV system in it and neither one holds an advantage over the NAV in my Corvette. Not the most user-friendly unit, but I took the time to read the manual and all the tutorials on this forum and I found that if I input it correctly, it will work just fine. Your choice, but I think I'd give it a few more , maybe you'll warm up to it, better than spending another $700-1,000 to replace it.I do not think it is as easy to use as the Garmin but it does the job.
10-28-2012, 06:02 PM
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in the last week i took 5 different trips in my '12 coupe varying from 5-20 miles in length on routes i know like the back of my hand and have been traveling all my life. but every time i also took my garmin nuvi with me and used it also. every F*& n time the oem nav took me on routes i never knew even existed and was basically useless. the garmin was dead on accurate every trip and used the exact same roads i did. how can anybody defend this piece of crap oem nav unit! i could see once or twice, but every time? I used to be somewhat of a fan because i got to use the HUD with it but after this week i proved my point because its getting to be very annoying. it seems like it goes out of its way to take you out of your way!
10-28-2012, 06:29 PM
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This does not seem to be the case with the OEM Navi in the Corvette. IMO, this is unacceptable in a world where intuitive computing is the norm rather than the exception in most cases.
Fortunately, I did not buy my Vette new and did not pay the $1500-2000k for the option. But if I had, I'd be extremely unhappy
You may be correct in that I need to read the manual to get the best from the OEM navi. And I will take your advice and do so. But, I don't think I should have to do so except to fine tune some minor issues which I might not understand.
All that said, I should probably thank you and others here for giving me hope that the Navi is useful and usable with some amount of instruction, trial and error.