Bad factory quality control? Dealer schenanigans?
#22
"A) Bad quality control at the factory. Gert and his $35/hr + full benies and pension installing brake calipers needs a review. Somehow it got the black calipers from the brake option but maybe someone caught it last second and didn't bother to correct."
Apparently your first decision in determining "root cause" of the situation is to make known your own personal issues of the Bowling Green employees wages, benefits, and pension. Sell your corvette and buy a Kia or Hyundai!
Guess everything you buy at WallyWorld from China, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Mexico, Pakistan, Columbia, and all the other imports is always 100% perfect. I guess it is ok to exploit those countries' employees who do not even make a livable wage!!!!
Apparently your first decision in determining "root cause" of the situation is to make known your own personal issues of the Bowling Green employees wages, benefits, and pension. Sell your corvette and buy a Kia or Hyundai!
Guess everything you buy at WallyWorld from China, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Mexico, Pakistan, Columbia, and all the other imports is always 100% perfect. I guess it is ok to exploit those countries' employees who do not even make a livable wage!!!!
#23
Team Owner
Why does him placing blame on the factory (which 99% sure it will be their fault) mean he should buy a Kia or a Hyndai?
Pro union guy, huh?
How is it much different than giving the American worker about twice what he is really worth? That inflates the cost of the car. Sorry, buying a 50k+ car that cant even have the correct color brake calipers on it is terrible.
#25
What are you saying?! A factory job should pay at least $30 dollars an hour, it's so education-intense and isn't a blue collar job at all. In fact, we should unionize McDonald's, too, so we can pay $15 dollars for a burger and have workers being paid $23 dollars an hour. they deserve it, around all that grease. We will also talk about a third world country's terrible pay, despite not knowing a thing about their country's economy and economic standards.
Everyone knows that if you can't get the exact job that meets all your standards, you collect unemployment until you get your dream job! Forget ever working for less than you "deserve".
Everyone knows that if you can't get the exact job that meets all your standards, you collect unemployment until you get your dream job! Forget ever working for less than you "deserve".
#26
Le Mans Master
I've never seen black on vett someone either painted 3 or someone stole the silver ones and they took the black of a trade in. If GM doesn't make black someone is lying about what happened. Years ago I was walking the lot on a Chev dealer and notice a corvette sitting on the back row went to look and discover all the lug nuts missing. The thieves were going to come back and steal the wheels later.
z51vett
z51vett
Actually, on Chevys website they list these caliper color options.
No selection $0
Black $0
Dark Gray Metallic $595
Red $595
Silver $595
Yellow $595
All of the color selections require either the cross drilled rotor option or Magnetic Selective Ride Control. (The Gray is for the 60th Anniversary.)
How they got mismatched on his Corvette is a mystery but I'd bet they left the factory that way.
#28
Le Mans Master
What are you saying?! A factory job should pay at least $30 dollars an hour, it's so education-intense and isn't a blue collar job at all. In fact, we should unionize McDonald's, too, so we can pay $15 dollars for a burger and have workers being paid $23 dollars an hour. they deserve it, around all that grease. We will also talk about a third world country's terrible pay, despite not knowing a thing about their country's economy and economic standards.
Everyone knows that if you can't get the exact job that meets all your standards, you collect unemployment until you get your dream job! Forget ever working for less than you "deserve".
Everyone knows that if you can't get the exact job that meets all your standards, you collect unemployment until you get your dream job! Forget ever working for less than you "deserve".
z51vett
#29
Instructor
Thread Starter
Called dealer today and they are stepping up. Ordered a black caliper and its on the way.
Kind of pain but I look at it as I got the black calipers without having to buy the brake option
Id rather they be black on this car than raw, so it works out.
FWIW, I still would have, and am going to, buy more GM products the rest of my life regardless of outcome.
Chevy runs deeper than fixable color snafus.
Thanks.
Kind of pain but I look at it as I got the black calipers without having to buy the brake option
Id rather they be black on this car than raw, so it works out.
FWIW, I still would have, and am going to, buy more GM products the rest of my life regardless of outcome.
Chevy runs deeper than fixable color snafus.
Thanks.
#30
Called dealer today and they are stepping up. Ordered a black caliper and its on the way.
Kind of pain but I look at it as I got the black calipers without having to buy the brake option
Id rather they be black on this car than raw, so it works out.
FWIW, I still would have, and am going to, buy more GM products the rest of my life regardless of outcome.
Chevy runs deeper than fixable color snafus.
Thanks.
Kind of pain but I look at it as I got the black calipers without having to buy the brake option
Id rather they be black on this car than raw, so it works out.
FWIW, I still would have, and am going to, buy more GM products the rest of my life regardless of outcome.
Chevy runs deeper than fixable color snafus.
Thanks.
#31
Rent an apartment or house, get a cheap car, live on a good budget.
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Hello all. Just purchased a new 2013 1LT Base. Arctic White w/ ebony interior, M6. No options. Love it. Picked it up with 7 miles on the odo. Early build. Dealer got it around 05/xx/2012, I bought it last Saturday.
Anyway, right to the chase:
I never noticed it while at the dealer, but after washing it I saw it. I have (2) black rear brake calipers, (1) black front brake caliper and wouldn't you know, a standard silver/raw brake front caliper on the drivers side.
Now I know that when you order the $500.00 cross drilled larger brake rotor option, it defaults your brake calipers to black. But I don't have that option. They should ALL be silver/raw, no?
I pulled the GMVIS report. No damage. CARFAX, no damage. Dealer swears nothing has happened to the car. Crawling around in/under it I find no signs of damage or repair. Looks like factory "chalk" marks on the under side of both wheel wells...etc. The thing is, shady dealers have been known to slip stuff passed people before. Maybe some of you heard of the Jalopnik incident recently where a dealer was caught trying to sell a front end smashed, and repaired, ZL1 Camaro as brand new and was only caught by a sleuthing forum-er. Obviously they have the resources and ability to fix a vehicle with out insurance or GMVIS reporting.
This really doesn't seem like that type of dealer. Besides, lets say it was front end wrecked and repaired. Wouldn't I be more likely to find (1) BLACK caliper on the front and the rest silver/raw rather than all black and (1) silver/raw?
So I'm left wondering:
A) Bad quality control at the factory. Gert and his $35/hr + full benies and pension installing brake calipers needs a review. Somehow it got the black calipers from the brake option but maybe someone caught it last second and didn't bother to correct.
B) They ran out of stock of silver/raw standard painted brake calipers and had to use what they had. I've heard stories of GM A bodies in the 71 strike ending up with different panels. I.E. Chevelle with Oldsmobile interior door panels and such.
C) Someone/manager took this car out and front ended it into something and then did a flawless repair job on it, save for not installing a black caliper to match, even though I'm sure they thought it was the right part per the VIN ordering or whatever.
What say you?
Thanks!
Anyway, right to the chase:
I never noticed it while at the dealer, but after washing it I saw it. I have (2) black rear brake calipers, (1) black front brake caliper and wouldn't you know, a standard silver/raw brake front caliper on the drivers side.
Now I know that when you order the $500.00 cross drilled larger brake rotor option, it defaults your brake calipers to black. But I don't have that option. They should ALL be silver/raw, no?
I pulled the GMVIS report. No damage. CARFAX, no damage. Dealer swears nothing has happened to the car. Crawling around in/under it I find no signs of damage or repair. Looks like factory "chalk" marks on the under side of both wheel wells...etc. The thing is, shady dealers have been known to slip stuff passed people before. Maybe some of you heard of the Jalopnik incident recently where a dealer was caught trying to sell a front end smashed, and repaired, ZL1 Camaro as brand new and was only caught by a sleuthing forum-er. Obviously they have the resources and ability to fix a vehicle with out insurance or GMVIS reporting.
This really doesn't seem like that type of dealer. Besides, lets say it was front end wrecked and repaired. Wouldn't I be more likely to find (1) BLACK caliper on the front and the rest silver/raw rather than all black and (1) silver/raw?
So I'm left wondering:
A) Bad quality control at the factory. Gert and his $35/hr + full benies and pension installing brake calipers needs a review. Somehow it got the black calipers from the brake option but maybe someone caught it last second and didn't bother to correct.
B) They ran out of stock of silver/raw standard painted brake calipers and had to use what they had. I've heard stories of GM A bodies in the 71 strike ending up with different panels. I.E. Chevelle with Oldsmobile interior door panels and such.
C) Someone/manager took this car out and front ended it into something and then did a flawless repair job on it, save for not installing a black caliper to match, even though I'm sure they thought it was the right part per the VIN ordering or whatever.
What say you?
Thanks!
#35
Oh no, you have insulted the amazing vette workers and upset Mikey. Too bad you did not cut it in his book. Now your purpose in this world is lost.
#37
Melting Slicks
I'm glad your problem will be resolved. The vitriol spewed here just because someone belongs to a union and happens to earn a decent living because of it never ceases to amaze me.
#38
Le Mans Master
It is unlikely that would happen in the factory. In the old days if they ran out of a certain part they would substitute parts as the cars went down the line. Nowadays the parts are allocated to the car before it gets to the production line. The car doesn't get staged for production unless all the parts are on hand.
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Odds are the dealer made a switch and the car the o/p bought became a donor car. If you worked at Bowling Green and read the o/p statement you'd be offended.
#40
Race Director
I'll stand by Mikey.
I used to build cars for GM (a long time ago). We never intentionally put the wrong parts on any car: 1) it usually wouldn't fit and 2) it would likely take longer than the allocated time for assembly.
I used to build cars for GM (a long time ago). We never intentionally put the wrong parts on any car: 1) it usually wouldn't fit and 2) it would likely take longer than the allocated time for assembly.