Check Engine Light - Can't Reset Code
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Keep in mind that dealers are not looking to do warranty work if they do not have to because they get paid less on that work than normal jobs they could do and make a lot more money for the same amount of hours.
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They also told others on here that the gas cap was not covered until they pressed the issue using the emissions warranty. It even covered a gas leak that occurred in the tube that connects the two tanks. If the fault code you are getting would prevent the car from passing a state emissions test it would be covered.
Keep in mind that dealers are not looking to do warranty work if they do not have to because they get paid less on that work than normal jobs they could do and make a lot more money for the same amount of hours.
Keep in mind that dealers are not looking to do warranty work if they do not have to because they get paid less on that work than normal jobs they could do and make a lot more money for the same amount of hours.
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The dealer will have to verify the problem and then submit it under the emissions warranty that is a warranty required of manufacturers under federal law. Just like the gas cap it has to be tested and found to leak before GM pays for it.
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After getting no where with the local dealer on this I called G.M and opened a case and received a case number and was told they would call the local dealer and we will see where that goes in a day or two.
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Just finished talking to two different service managers. First said the 8 year emission warranty only covers "major" issues like a catalytic converter and does not cover the solenoid. The other said the solenoid is covered under the warranty. If it turns out the be the hose connected to the solenoid, different story. But, we're finally making some progress so we'll be in there on Monday to have it checked out.
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Just finished talking to two different service managers. First said the 8 year emission warranty only covers "major" issues like a catalytic converter and does not cover the solenoid. The other said the solenoid is covered under the warranty. If it turns out the be the hose connected to the solenoid, different story. But, we're finally making some progress so we'll be in there on Monday to have it checked out.
The first one is incorrect and just doesn't want to deal with it, the second one is correct. Anything that is faulty including tubing or fittings and could cause increased emissions or the leaking of fuel or fuel vapors into the atmosphere is covered under the emissions warranty.
There was a new forum member here in Tucson that bought a C6 and was complaining that every time they filled the car and parked the car in the garage that they could smell gasoline. It was out of the 36 month warranty and when they took it in the dealer told them it was a leak related to the tube connecting the two tanks and it was not covered. I suggested they go back to the dealer and request it be covered under the emissions warranty. The dealer checked with GM and the entire repair cost which was over $1,500 ended up covered by the emissions warranty because the leak caused fuel and fuel vapor to leak into the air.
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The first one is incorrect and just doesn't want to deal with it, the second one is correct. Anything that is faulty including tubing or fittings and could cause increased emissions or the leaking of fuel or fuel vapors into the atmosphere is covered under the emissions warranty.
There was a new forum member here in Tucson that bought a C6 and was complaining that every time they filled the car and parked the car in the garage that they could smell gasoline. It was out of the 36 month warranty and when they took it in the dealer told them it was a leak related to the tube connecting the two tanks and it was not covered. I suggested they go back to the dealer and request it be covered under the emissions warranty. The dealer checked with GM and the entire repair cost which was over $1,500 ended up covered by the emissions warranty because the leak caused fuel and fuel vapor to leak into the air.
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Very interesting. Would you happen to have anything I can show them in writing indicating if it's related to emissions it's automatically covered under the emissions warranty? My concern is if it turns out to be emissions related, but not the solenoid, they're going to give me a hard time. Thanks again for all your help.
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will be replaced within 10 years of the date originally placed in service or 120,000 miles whichever occurs first.
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GM# EIO7238, which includes the labor for them to replace it as well.
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Federal Emission Control System Warranty
Federal Warranty Coverage . Car or Light Duty Truck with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 8,500 lbs. or less ‐ 2 years or 24,000 miles and 8 years or 80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, vehicle/powertrain control module, transmission control module or other onboard emissions diagnostic device, including emission-related software, whichever comes first.
Federal Warranty Coverage . Car or Light Duty Truck with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 8,500 lbs. or less ‐ 2 years or 24,000 miles and 8 years or 80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, vehicle/powertrain control module, transmission control module or other onboard emissions diagnostic device, including emission-related software, whichever comes first.
EI07238 -- Fuel Cap May Not Seal, MIL/SES Light Illuminated with DTC P0442 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Small Leak Detected and/or P0455 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Large Leak Detected
Models: 2005-2007 Cadillac XLR, XLR-V
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette
Attention:
Proceed with this bulletin ONLY if the customer has commented about this concern AND the EI number is listed in GMVIS. If the customer has not commented about this condition or the EI does not show in GMVIS, disregard the bulletin and proceed with diagnostics found in the published Service Information. THIS IS NOT A RECALL--refer to Service Bulletin 04-00-89-053B for more detail on the use of Engineering Information Bulletins.
This bulletin is being revised to add additional EVAP test information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 07-06-04-022D (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System).
ConditionSome customers may comment on a Service Engine Soon (SES) Light illuminated on the IP cluster and the fuel cap does not seal or tighten. Technicians may find DTC P0442 and/or P0455 set.
What Action to Take
GM Engineering is attempting to determine the root cause for fuel caps not sealing and/or setting codes P0442 or P0455. GM Engineering has a need to obtain information first hand from the dealer technician during diagnosis and before repair.
As a result, this information will be used by engineering to "root cause" the customer's concern and develop/validate a field fix. Please follow the instructions below regarding the requested information.
InstructionsImportant:
If a vehicle is encountered with the above concern, complete the following steps; making sure all the information is documented on the Repair Order.
Verify that the VIN and mileage is accurate.
Accurately document the customers concern. If the SES light is illuminated, record the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) using a Tech 2®.
Important: DO NOT use fuel tank filler pipe/neck test adapters, fuel cap testers or smog machines when trying to root cause the EVAP leak.
Perform the EVAP Smoke Test using the service port at the engine side ONLY. The fuel cap needs to be on the fuel tank filler pipe/neck when performing the EVAP Smoke Test.
• If DTC P0442 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Small Leak Detected is stored, proceed to diagnosis DTC P0442 in SI.
• If DTC P0455 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Large Leak Detected is stored, proceed to diagnosis DTC P0455 in SI.
• If diagnostics lead to repair other components not related to the fuel tank filler pipe neck or fuel cap, repair accordingly and disregard this bulletin.
If the diagnostics lead to a leak at the fuel tank filler pipe neck or the fuel cap area, inspect for the following conditions:
• Inspect the condition of the fuel cap by looking for small cracks or any damaged components.
• Inspect the fuel cap seal for distortion or cuts.
• Inspect the fuel filler neck sealing surface for gouges or dents produced accidentally by a fuel nozzle.
Models: 2005-2007 Cadillac XLR, XLR-V
2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette
Attention:
Proceed with this bulletin ONLY if the customer has commented about this concern AND the EI number is listed in GMVIS. If the customer has not commented about this condition or the EI does not show in GMVIS, disregard the bulletin and proceed with diagnostics found in the published Service Information. THIS IS NOT A RECALL--refer to Service Bulletin 04-00-89-053B for more detail on the use of Engineering Information Bulletins.
This bulletin is being revised to add additional EVAP test information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 07-06-04-022D (Section 06 -- Engine/Propulsion System).
ConditionSome customers may comment on a Service Engine Soon (SES) Light illuminated on the IP cluster and the fuel cap does not seal or tighten. Technicians may find DTC P0442 and/or P0455 set.
What Action to Take
GM Engineering is attempting to determine the root cause for fuel caps not sealing and/or setting codes P0442 or P0455. GM Engineering has a need to obtain information first hand from the dealer technician during diagnosis and before repair.
As a result, this information will be used by engineering to "root cause" the customer's concern and develop/validate a field fix. Please follow the instructions below regarding the requested information.
InstructionsImportant:
If a vehicle is encountered with the above concern, complete the following steps; making sure all the information is documented on the Repair Order.
Verify that the VIN and mileage is accurate.
Accurately document the customers concern. If the SES light is illuminated, record the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) using a Tech 2®.
Important: DO NOT use fuel tank filler pipe/neck test adapters, fuel cap testers or smog machines when trying to root cause the EVAP leak.
Perform the EVAP Smoke Test using the service port at the engine side ONLY. The fuel cap needs to be on the fuel tank filler pipe/neck when performing the EVAP Smoke Test.
• If DTC P0442 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Small Leak Detected is stored, proceed to diagnosis DTC P0442 in SI.
• If DTC P0455 - Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Large Leak Detected is stored, proceed to diagnosis DTC P0455 in SI.
• If diagnostics lead to repair other components not related to the fuel tank filler pipe neck or fuel cap, repair accordingly and disregard this bulletin.
If the diagnostics lead to a leak at the fuel tank filler pipe neck or the fuel cap area, inspect for the following conditions:
• Inspect the condition of the fuel cap by looking for small cracks or any damaged components.
• Inspect the fuel cap seal for distortion or cuts.
• Inspect the fuel filler neck sealing surface for gouges or dents produced accidentally by a fuel nozzle.
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Quick update. Dropped the car off this morning and just got a call back from the service manager. Fuel vent solenoid was replaced under warranty! Big thanks to RJRSW for all the helpful information and lighting a fire under my butt to keep pressing the dealers to cover it.
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Quick update. Dropped the car off this morning and just got a call back from the service manager. Fuel vent solenoid was replaced under warranty! Big thanks to RJRSW for all the helpful information and lighting a fire under my butt to keep pressing the dealers to cover it.
Glad I could help.