Everyone please read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not trying to be condescending or anything, but some of the numerous stories I've read about this never cease to amaze me.
When I very first bought my vette, I of course noticed right away that the doors were different and were not mechanical, but electronic. It occurred to me right away of how I would get in OR out if the vette had no power. So I pulled out the owners manual and satisfied my curiosity.
I really think part of it is the culture of today. I noticed years ago that it wasn't "trendy" or "cool" to learn technical things or be inquisitive about how something works. I think there are some people out there that are purposely ignorant to learning how some things work from a technical perspective because it's not "trendy" or "cool" to do so.
When I very first bought my vette, I of course noticed right away that the doors were different and were not mechanical, but electronic. It occurred to me right away of how I would get in OR out if the vette had no power. So I pulled out the owners manual and satisfied my curiosity.
I really think part of it is the culture of today. I noticed years ago that it wasn't "trendy" or "cool" to learn technical things or be inquisitive about how something works. I think there are some people out there that are purposely ignorant to learning how some things work from a technical perspective because it's not "trendy" or "cool" to do so.
Think your on to something. I work in development for a rather well known company and have noticed this sentiment time and time again. Some people that claim to be technical sometimes aren't. They may have a decent or even impressive wealth of knowledge but when it comes to doing something they have never done before they are stumped. All because someone hasn't shown them how and their unwilling to try.
This speaks loudly to me as lack of initiative which I'm unfortunately seeing a lot more of from the younger people. This is not exclusive to that group of course. Just an example.
Truly is sad to see someone pass on like this and hope he is at peace.
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The Fire Department said there were foot prints all over the inside of the car from him trying to kick the door or windows out. He wanted to get out, but instead he panicked and couldn't focus enough to find the solution.
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After reading all of this and thinking about people drowning in cars from flooding or whatever maybe one of these things should be in everyone's cars ???
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After reading all of this and thinking about people drowning in cars from flooding or whatever maybe one of these things should be in everyone's cars ???
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I did put one in each vehicle though...
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From: Land of the free, home of the brave...
Really?
Come on....the car has easy to see/identifiy door release levers on the floor next to both the driver's and passenger's car doors. Plus in all the news releases on this there is no mention of "foot prints all over the car".
And as we all know Corvettes have removable roof panels. Worst case, he could have just released it and moved it enough to get air. Did he need to read the whole owner's manual for that???
SO, not to blame the older gentleman but did the owner really die because he: couldn't get out; pull a lever; open the roof; push against the uppper edge of the side window OR did he suffer a heart attack or even commit the "S" word.
If he was dead, how did the responders know he was trapped couldn't get out?????
And as we all know Corvettes have removable roof panels. Worst case, he could have just released it and moved it enough to get air. Did he need to read the whole owner's manual for that???
SO, not to blame the older gentleman but did the owner really die because he: couldn't get out; pull a lever; open the roof; push against the uppper edge of the side window OR did he suffer a heart attack or even commit the "S" word.
If he was dead, how did the responders know he was trapped couldn't get out?????
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It's believable. How many of you "experts" had to be told about the hatch key in your FOB or the slot in the hatch? This forum is full of examples of owners not reading the manual. Lights on mirror not going off, grease fittings on a Z51 equipped car, tire sizes, etc, etc, etc.
It's just unfortunate it cost a life this time.
It's just unfortunate it cost a life this time.
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Come on....the car has easy to see/identifiy door release levers on the floor next to both the driver's and passenger's car doors. Plus in all the news releases on this there is no mention of "foot prints all over the car".
And as we all know Corvettes have removable roof panels. Worst case, he could have just released it and moved it enough to get air. Did he need to read the whole owner's manual for that???
SO, not to blame the older gentleman but did the owner really die because he: couldn't get out; pull a lever; open the roof; push against the uppper edge of the side window OR did he suffer a heart attack or even commit the "S" word.
If he was dead, how did the responders know he was trapped couldn't get out?????
And as we all know Corvettes have removable roof panels. Worst case, he could have just released it and moved it enough to get air. Did he need to read the whole owner's manual for that???
SO, not to blame the older gentleman but did the owner really die because he: couldn't get out; pull a lever; open the roof; push against the uppper edge of the side window OR did he suffer a heart attack or even commit the "S" word.
If he was dead, how did the responders know he was trapped couldn't get out?????
Someting fishy about this story
Burning Brakes
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I've posted my own personal experience with this in another thread...the one thing I will say is...when faced with a perceived life or death situation and panic has set in...logical/rational thinking is lost. It's like trying to tell someone who's drowning to calm down so that they can be helped...but in a panicked state they can't... and will end up not only drowning but will drown the person who was trying to save them. I think this post is very informative...knowing how to get out of a Corvette without power is in the owners manual...knowing how you will react to a perceived life or death situation is not...
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One word "PANIC". In a state of shear panic especially when someone has claustrophobia, you won't remember what you read in a manual or what the dealer told you. You'll just want out as fast as possible without remembering how. I love my '05 Vette but the design of the door handles and locks is needlessly difficult. How many threads are there in this forum about problems with the entry/door lock system in the Vette? There are many! When I was young, I owned a '68 GTO and replaced the door locks that you push down and has the nub on the top to straight pins. When locked, the pins would go just below the surface of the door panel. Once inside, I accidently locked the door and couldn't pry the pin up because I couldn't grab it. After shear panic and honking the horn to get attention I realized that the passenger side was not locked and got out that way. With a clear mind and no panic, it wouldn't have been a big deal. But it was for me and I'll never forget it. That was over 40 years ago. I always think of that with my Vette but I remind myself that fortunately, I have the targa top so in the event of locking myself in and in a panic, eject through the roof.
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Before I test drove a C6, the salesman mentioned the emergency release handles.
When I bought my C6, the salesman told me that if I didn't remember anything else he said, remember the emergency release handles.
When I bought my C6, the salesman told me that if I didn't remember anything else he said, remember the emergency release handles.
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OK...wait a minute here. I know what kind of responses this is gonna bring...but that's just too bad. When I buy any vehicle new or used I read the basic content of the owners manual, but I generally just use it as a reference when I need info on how to operate something in the car. I don't sit down in a chair at night with my favorite drink an enjoy the cover to cover reading of any owners manual for any car. Some post are making it sound like ones and idiot if they don't do this. In case we haven't noticed most manuals resemble a small encyclopedia these days. In this new world order we are creating we are simply looking for a reason or someone to blame whenever theres a terrible accident. I think its called something like "Accountability". Now when we take a passenger in the car we should go down some kind of check list with them...."Do this if that happens"...."Do that if this happens"....really.
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That's half the fun of buying a new car. Bring that Baby into the garage, pull up a comfortable Adirondack chair from outside and get to know your new mechanical friend. Several hours of enjoyable reading and poking around the car getting to know the many systems it has. Then there is the driving thing. OMG maybe I overestimated the fun factor of reading the manual. Make that 5% of the fun. :-)
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[QUOTE=George's_Vette;1589821573]That's half the fun of buying a new car. Bring that Baby into the garage, pull up a comfortable Adirondack chair from outside and get to know your new mechanical friend. Several hours of enjoyable reading and poking around the car getting to know the many systems it has. Then there is the driving thing. OMG maybe I overestimated the fun factor of reading the manual. Make that 5% of the fun. :-)
Same with me. The night I bring a car home, I hop into bed. My wife watches a Friends rerun and I cozy up to the owner's manual. In reading it, not only do I find out about safety and emergency procedures, but enjoy finding that it has features that I was not aware of. Knowledge is power and enjoyment
Same with me. The night I bring a car home, I hop into bed. My wife watches a Friends rerun and I cozy up to the owner's manual. In reading it, not only do I find out about safety and emergency procedures, but enjoy finding that it has features that I was not aware of. Knowledge is power and enjoyment
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[QUOTE=Bob Paris;1589821627]
Reading an owners manual is primarily a guy thing, at least in my household. My wife always comments on no matter what I purchase, I will be spending the night reading the owners manual
I know she is aware of owners manuals, just never occurs to her to read one.....
That's half the fun of buying a new car. Bring that Baby into the garage, pull up a comfortable Adirondack chair from outside and get to know your new mechanical friend. Several hours of enjoyable reading and poking around the car getting to know the many systems it has. Then there is the driving thing. OMG maybe I overestimated the fun factor of reading the manual. Make that 5% of the fun. :-)
Same with me. The night I bring a car home, I hop into bed. My wife watches a Friends rerun and I cozy up to the owner's manual. In reading it, not only do I find out about safety and emergency procedures, but enjoy finding that it has features that I was not aware of. Knowledge is power and enjoyment
Same with me. The night I bring a car home, I hop into bed. My wife watches a Friends rerun and I cozy up to the owner's manual. In reading it, not only do I find out about safety and emergency procedures, but enjoy finding that it has features that I was not aware of. Knowledge is power and enjoyment
I know she is aware of owners manuals, just never occurs to her to read one.....
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My wife would read one if it said "People" on the cover and had lots of pictures.
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So sad...
I saw the article today and that's just terribly sad. If only he'd known he had a handle one foot to his left that would have saved him and his dog...
I am claustrophobic and would not have purchased a corevette without first having read about the mechanical release handles. The first time I sat in a new one (in 2012) I reached right down and tried the release as soon as I got in the car. It worked and we went from there.
The dealer who sold me mine told me the car would be good to me as long as the voltage was above something like 12.8 volts but, he said, if it gets much lower, you might find yourself locked in and with a dead car. But of course, with the mechanical release handles...
bob
I am claustrophobic and would not have purchased a corevette without first having read about the mechanical release handles. The first time I sat in a new one (in 2012) I reached right down and tried the release as soon as I got in the car. It worked and we went from there.
The dealer who sold me mine told me the car would be good to me as long as the voltage was above something like 12.8 volts but, he said, if it gets much lower, you might find yourself locked in and with a dead car. But of course, with the mechanical release handles...
bob