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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BigVette427
How did you find that out? Did you get a CEL or did the CAGS just start blocking you out?
The LED will burn out over time, and it will cause a CEL code since the ecm can no longer see the CAGS solenoid to check it.

The way that the resistor/blows smart fuse works, it allows enough current to go through the system for the ecm to check/see the CAGS solenoid to make sure it's all right, but not enough current to get to the CAGS solenoid to allow it to work (engauge and block you out of 2 and 3) instead.

When the #10 fuse is just pulled (or the LED in the smart fuse burns out), the ECM can no longer check the CAGS solenoid and you get the code.

The 2.2K resistor fuse works a lot better, since the resistor does not have the LED burn out problems instead.

As for the $19.99 device that you plug into the trans under the car, its just a 2.2K resistor as well. This type device was needed on the C5 corvettes, since fuse #10 in the C5 was used for other items besides the CAGS alone.

On the C6, only the CAGS solenoid is on Fuse #10 in the engine fuse box, and why you can install the 2.2K/smart fuse there to do the same as the plug in type device that installs on CAGS solenoid connector at the trans instead.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Trade it in for an A6 and you never have to worry about that little light, work arounds, devices or anything else... after all only insecure men drive manual cars these days

KIDDING!!!
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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Simply stating something that I found that I thought might be interesting for someone to read. Please disregard I ever started the thread.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SickGS
Simply stating something that I found that I thought might be interesting for someone to read. Please disregard I ever started the thread.
Don't let them get to you
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Crabbers
Don't let them get to you
Thanks Crabbers. Sorry, it's been a rough day. Came to the forum to get away from the commotion and took the posts the wrong way I guess.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SickGS
Thanks Crabbers. Sorry, it's been a rough day. Came to the forum to get away from the commotion and took the posts the wrong way I guess.
Go drive that beautiful GS and you'll feel much better
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SickGS
Simply stating something that I found that I thought might be interesting for someone to read. Please disregard I ever started the thread.
Sorry, I guess you just reminded me how ridiculous the 1to4 setup is. It's suppose to reduce emissions and use less fuel, but you have to rev the engine up to bypass the 1to4. Now how insane is that??? Plus try being cool and forget your procedure in front of everybody. CAGS for me!

While I'm at it, who thought of the 10% ethanol???

While I'm at it, who thought of the vented gas cans...I spill more gas using that damn thing than a non-vented. Who thinks of these things???

Oops...Sorry!!!

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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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Your all missing to the point. The Cags is there to get you from 1st to 4th to increase mpg which in turn eliminated the "gas guzzler" tax.

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Originally Posted by hotmotorsports
Sorry, I guess you just reminded me how ridiculous the 1to4 setup is. It's suppose to reduce emissions and use less fuel, but you have to rev the engine up to bypass the 1to4. Now how insane is that??? Plus try being cool and forget your procedure in front of everybody. CAGS for me!

While I'm at it, who thought of the 10% ethanol???

While I'm at it, who thought of the vented gas cans...I spill more gas using that damn thing than a non-vented. Who thinks of these things???

Oops...Sorry!!!

Chuck M
AMEN!!!! LOL
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999

"I have a pebble in my shoe, but I find that if I walk in a certain way, it doesn't hurt me at all"
Classic!!!
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
Or, pull $20 out of your wallet, buy an eliminator, and shift however you want, any time you want?

Honestly I just don't understand the logic in changing the way you drive (more revs, shifter dancing, etc) just to avoid a device that serves absolutely no purpose and is easy and cheap to remove?

"I have a pebble in my shoe, but I find that if I walk in a certain way, it doesn't hurt me at all"
Bought the fuse from compliance parts and no more light or skip shift. I don't remember for sure but I think it wasn't even 20 bucks.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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Am I missing something here?

Just have the 1-4 shift tuned out via programming.

One of the first things I did.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by z06clif
Your all missing to the point. The Cags is there to get you from 1st to 4th to increase mpg which in turn eliminated the "gas guzzler" tax.

Clif
Not missing it at all we all know why it's there, I had it in my c4 and got rid of it, I didn't buy a corvette to worry about MPG
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
"I have a pebble in my shoe..."
I thought that was a form of birth control...put a pebble in your shoe and it makes you limp. Just sayin...
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SickGS
Ok guys, I have found something that may work for you all with the manual tranny and don't have the CAGS eliminator installed. Found it purely by accident. I noticed when my 1 to 4 light came on I could pull my shifter out of first and instead of shifting into fourth I ever so slightly pushed it forward as if I was going to shift it back into first and I felt the gate open allowing me to then shift into second instead of first. I got so good at it that it became second nature and although the light would come on I could trick it into opening the gate. I don't know if it works on all M6's but it did on mine. Like I said I found it by accident and from then on it became habit and was never an issue. Just wanted to relay this info for those of you that would like to experiment and see if you can do the same.

Cheers.
I think what you are actually doing is lifting up on the accelerator (lowering the rpms longer than a shift), which will turn off the 1-4. It doesn't take much.

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Originally Posted by owc6
I think what you are actually doing is lifting up on the accelerator, which will turn off the 1-4. It doesn't take much.
Double clutching does the same thing...clutch it out of first, clutch it into second. And old trucker thing. When real trucks had two sticks...
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hotmotorsports

While I'm at it, who thought of the 10% ethanol???
Chuck M

The same clowns that thought up High fructose crown sugar, hence we have a surplus of corn crops in the states, and need way to keep the farmers growing/selling it, instead of the corn market prices tanking from excess surplus build ups on one of the few exports products that the USA has.


And yes, E-10 kills gas mileage at the tune of roughly 30%, while HFCS kills people instead.

Not only does HFCS had some nasties in it from it cracking process to turn corn into HFCS in the first place (sugar and HFCS are not processed in the body the same way), and unlike standard sugar from sugar cane that will make you sick if you eat too much of it, HFCS will allow you to drink gallons of it without being nauseated instead.

So it really boils down to the corn council and their lobbyist that snowballed government into thinking that either of such where good ideas to being with (the almighty lobby dollar in action).
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by donwil
Bought the fuse from compliance parts and no more light or skip shift. I don't remember for sure but I think it wasn't even 20 bucks.
http://www.complianceparts.com/c6cags-skip.html
http://www.complianceparts.com/products.html

Not a bad price if you can't solder ($14, plus shipping), and looks to be an honest 2.2K resistor designed fuse (when I have seen others on ebay are just selling blown smart fuses at a huge mark up instead).
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I also have my own way around the skip shift. First of all I tried the led blown fuse and put it in the wrong spot and had to fix it on a rainy night having no tail lights. Its still in the glove box. What I do is move the shifter to the right when I come out of first gear. The linkage works better if I do that. I could take it to Mr Goodwrench and have it worse when I get it back or just move the shifter from first into neutral but move the stick to the right and back then into second. Its so easy I dont even think about doing it. Once in a while the light will come on but have never been blocked out.
If it was a problem I would use the smart fuse but put it in the right spot next time
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Originally Posted by Dano523
The same clowns that thought up High fructose crown sugar, hence we have a surplus of corn crops in the states, and need way to keep the farmers growing/selling it, instead of the corn market prices tanking from excess surplus build ups on one of the few exports products that the USA has.
And yes, E-10 kills gas mileage at the tune of roughly 30%, while HFCS kills people instead.
Not only does HFCS had some nasties in it from it cracking process to turn corn into HFCS in the first place (sugar and HFCS are not processed in the body the same way), and unlike standard sugar from sugar cane that will make you sick if you eat too much of it, HFCS will allow you to drink gallons of it without being nauseated instead.
So it really boils down to the corn council and their lobbyist that snowballed government into thinking that either of such where good ideas to being with (the almighty lobby dollar in action).
What the heck is high fructose crown sugar? High fructose corn syrup?
Do you mean I can squeeze close to 40MPG outta my vette by using straight gas?
I guess the song was right: Jimmy crack corn and I don't care...
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