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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 09:45 AM
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I have a 2013 GS with the original OEM Goodyear's. How does temperature effect their traction. The temperature here is in the 20's and wondering if driving in this temperature dangerous.
Also, considering adding Blockit to the car, how many installed it and are disappointed.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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You take a chance on summer tires cracking and losing control. Michelin has sent out a letter stating 20 is too cold for theirs. Not sure if the OEM's are "summer" tires.

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OEM GY tires are called runcraps by most of the forum members for a reason.
They are noisy, not very good in the rain, and terrible under 50 F .
I changed mine out at 10K miles because of them being so dangerous when I was caught in the rain, and was hydroplaning all over the place at 30MPH.

Any other tire but GY's will be much better.

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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
OEM GY tires are called runcraps by most of the forum members for a reason.
They are noisy, not very good in the rain, and terrible under 50 F .
I changed mine out at 10K miles because of them being so dangerous when I was caught in the rain, and was hydroplaning all over the place at 30MPH.

Any other tire but GY's will be much better.

I'm also sad to report that the Cooper Zeon RS-3 tires for our GS/Z06 sizes perform exactly like the Goodyear OEMs.

Meaning, at any temp below 50, hang on if you punch it in 3rd, 2nd, and completely forget 1st.... Rainy roads can be scary too, and these are tires with about 2k miles on them.

I'm going back to my tried and proven Bridgestone Potenza Pole Positions once I wear this set out.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Yes, the OEM Goodyears are summer tires. Probably not a good idea to use them in the 20s, but if you do be careful. I wouldn't drive the at all below 20 (that's for any summer tire).
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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OEM Goodyear's are junk - plain & simple. They are noisy, lose traction at anything under 40 degrees and wear out quickly. Since you are in Georgia you don't need to worry about those temps in the 20's very often, I would suggest that you refrain from driving the Corvette until the weather warms. Then go buy some new Michelins or Bridgestones. LOTS of advice here on the best tires - do a search for "Grand Sport tires", read and decide which tires are best for you and the type of driving you do.

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New here and also have a 13 GS also in the Atlanta area. I have the original OEM GY tires. I took the car out a couple of days ago, temp was 36. I knew to be careful with the tires and was, but still the traction control kicked on in 1st and 2nd gear a few times very easily. I was not really surprised and could tell I needed to be very careful. I think I will leave it in the garage for now.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
OEM GY tires are called runcraps by most of the forum members for a reason.
They are noisy, not very good in the rain, and terrible under 50 F .
I changed mine out at 10K miles because of them being so dangerous when I was caught in the rain, and was hydroplaning all over the place at 30MPH.

Any other tire but GY's will be much better.

I haven't had issues with rain, even heavy rain in the summer but I didn't have that many miles on them yet and the worst storm I was in was when they had a few thousand miles on them.

Drove it last saturday, Dry and in the low 30's/ high 20's. I had to move it from my old house to new house. They were downright awful and I babied it the whole way. Only got up to 30 MPH and took my time at that. I had to do a tight low speed turn and the front tires skipped like crazy. I was lucky it was only 1.5 miles and 3 traffic lights.

I couldn't imagine trying it with snow on the ground or on a highway.

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....are definitely junk.
Mine lasted just 12,000 miles on my '11 GS.

Much happier with my Bridgestone Potenza Pole Positions.
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F a goodyear...
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I don't get it. It's winter, it's cold. They are summer tires.

So, when it's below 40 deg. I drive in a very relaxed fashion 'til they get warm (which I can tell from the TPS read-out) and then avoid getting crazy aggressive on on/off ramps or pedal to the metal. Can't drive in snow, so 10 days/year it stays in the garage. I have never felt the car was dangerous at all. Never felt like I was "driving on ice," even at < 20 deg.

A lot easier than changing to winter tires in December and back to Summer tires in late March
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Originally Posted by PaulEddie
.......Also, considering adding Blockit to the car, how many installed it and are disappointed.
Thanks in advance.

The Blockit is designed to take care of tire/road noise especially in states like TX, CA, FL...etc where the roads make the tires roar.
It also helps with some exhaust BUT if you have headers, a real aggressive exhaust and your looking for a library, this is not for you.


Below are some positive treads from members about the Blockit. Within each thread you will also find a ton more positive posts from members & mods who like it. .

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1573973170

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-block-it.html

And now with the C7, I grabbed these posts.....

Originally Posted by rpoz06
Having had Blockit in my Z06 - I thought it did a great job reducing noise so I added it to the C7 - Z51.
It arrived packaged well. Easy install with a precise fit. I was able to use the rings and shade. I found it able to make a nice noise reduction on all surfaces around Little Rock including interstate and different road surfaces including concrete and asphalt.
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I think we all agree that the goodyear run craps suck. The cooler denser air makes our Corvettes a bit quicker. If you take a bit of air out of the rears and make sure the tries are really warm you will notice less problems keeping it pointed straight.

It is more about realizing the limits of summer performance tires in cooler temps. Oh and btw the Michelins on my C7 are not much better in the cold than the run craps on my C6 . ...... on the plus side they are not as noisy
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Originally Posted by Atomic Fred
I don't get it. It's winter, it's cold. They are summer tires.

So, when it's below 40 deg. I drive in a very relaxed fashion 'til they get warm (which I can tell from the TPS read-out) and then avoid getting crazy aggressive on on/off ramps or pedal to the metal. Can't drive in snow, so 10 days/year it stays in the garage. I have never felt the car was dangerous at all. Never felt like I was "driving on ice," even at < 20 deg.

A lot easier than changing to winter tires in December and back to Summer tires in late March
You don't have to change tires if you go with Bridgestone or Michelins in the Grand Sport sizes. They grip very well from the teens to the 100s.

I got tired of losing traction in 3rd while trying to accellerate to interstate speeds and any temp below 60 degrees with my Goodyears. Meaning, I would break straight line traction in third, just by flooring it at 4k rpms, at any temp below 60 degrees with the Goodyears, unless I literally smoked them for a hundred yards or so. That was not for me, as a daily driver I want predictable traction.

When I put on the Bridgestones, I could not make them spin in 1st, with very, very hard launches!! Even on wet roads, they would not break traction from full on accelleration in 2nd gear.

The Coopers I have on now act exactly like the Goodyears, so when I wear them out, it's back to Bridgestone Potenza Pole Positions for me
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Originally Posted by Atomic Fred
I don't get it. It's winter, it's cold. They are summer tires.

So, when it's below 40 deg. I drive in a very relaxed fashion 'til they get warm (which I can tell from the TPS read-out) and then avoid getting crazy aggressive on on/off ramps or pedal to the metal. Can't drive in snow, so 10 days/year it stays in the garage. I have never felt the car was dangerous at all. Never felt like I was "driving on ice," even at < 20 deg.

A lot easier than changing to winter tires in December and back to Summer tires in late March
I hear ya Fred. Theres always a lot of this tire bashing going on in here. You're spot on......people use the tires beyond what they are designed for and then complain about them. Too noisy.....don't last long enough.....hydro-plane to bad....etc...etc. It must be hard to understand that if you want better traction then a softer tire will give you that but it won't last as long. If you want better traction on the dry then more rubber on the road will give you that but more rubber on the road means more hydro-planeing(sp). Help us Mr. Wizard !!!!!
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I hear ya Fred. Theres always a lot of this tire bashing going on in here. You're spot on......people use the tires beyond what they are designed for and then complain about them. Too noisy.....don't last long enough.....hydro-plane to bad....etc...etc. It must be hard to understand that if you want better traction then a softer tire will give you that but it won't last as long. If you want better traction on the dry then more rubber on the road will give you that but more rubber on the road means more hydro-planeing(sp). Help us Mr. Wizard !!!!!
From my personal experience, The GY's had great traction on warm, dry pavement. Besides that, they only start with 9/32" of thread, were very noisy, very expensive to replace, and when they get worn to about 1/2 thread, they got downright dangerous at below 50F and on any wet roads at that thread depth.
My OEM GY tires were at 4/32" thread (just over 1/2 worn) at 10K miles.
I changed them out after a hairy ride home on wet roads, just to be safe, as I drive my car, on road trips. I couldn't take a chance on being stuck on a road trip in the rain with a set of dangerous tires on my car.

After much research over that next week, looking at reviews and tire thread patterns, I bought a set of Firestone Summer performance tires, 10/32" thread. They were great at full thread, Good handling, not noisy, great wet condition traction.
At 3/32" thread remaining (70% worn), and at 30K miles on them, they were getting pretty noisy, but they still had decent traction on wet roads, not the 30-40 MPH max speed that the GY's had at 4/32" thread.
I replaced the Firestones at the 3/32" thread, with another set of exactly the same tire.

My observations:
GY F1 Supercars - From 9/32" - 4/32" at 10K miles- Dangerous on wet and at below 50F and noisy. Cost - $1500.00 + Installation
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Firestone WO Firehawk Indy 500's - From 10/32" - 3/32" at 30K miles.
Noisy but not dangerous to drive on them on wet conditions or below 50 F. Cost - $700.00 + Installation
FROM TIRE RACK SITE:


IMO, I'm glad that I replaced the OEM tires. Since I drive my car from April to Nov on road trips, I need a tire that will be safe in wet conditions, and sometimes when the temps are below 40F.
Granted, all summer performance tires will not have the max traction at low temps.

For winter driving or below 20F, then for sure Winter tires and their special rubber compounds are needed for maximum safety.
Even AS tires are not suitable for winter driving, but better than running a summer performance tire.

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Its understanding that most people don't want their car tires to sound like they are riding on a locomotive, esp. if its a luxury car, but buying a Corvette, or any true sports car for that matter and then complaining about a little tire noise just seems....well....there ya have it. Guess its kinda like buying a corvette and then complaining about the rough ride....
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Get rid of them as soon as you can afford to. As good as Goodyears racing reputation is, they have to be beside themselves with the negative comments on this tire.
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Guess its kinda like buying a corvette and then complaining about the rough ride....
That's what SHE SAID:
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Get rid of them as soon as you can afford to. As good as Goodyears racing reputation is, they have to be beside themselves with the negative comments on this tire.
True indeed.

While I do not complain about the fairly new GY's that came with the '08 I just bought (they're not that bad), the Tire Rack reviews, and my own experiences, do mean that something else will go on my car when they're worn out!!!

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