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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 03:29 AM
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Sounds like you are overthinking this whole glass thing. Find a place recommended in your area, take it in, get it replaced and move on.

I had my glass replaced on my 07 years ago. I installed the HUD myself years before that so I know what the HUD looks like on a non-HUD windshield. For what it's worth, I always keep the HUD at maximum brightness. The glass people replaced the original with AP Techoglass branded, HUD optioned glass. It was something like $500 at the time. The difference between the HUD glass and non-HUD glass is so small, if you told me it was just my eyes playing tricks I might believe you. The only point where I think it is noticeable is if it is very sunny outside and the sun is directly overhead. Both windshields wash out, just the HUD optioned one does so a little less.

The biggest problem with the original AP Techoglass for me, is the glass is very soft. After 30k interstate/hwy type miles it looks as if someone hit it with a sandblaster. The newer windshield is holding up better than the old one, but that is likely due to not doing as much interstate driving.
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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The biggest problem with the original AP Techoglass for me, is the glass is very soft. After 30k interstate/hwy type miles it looks as if someone hit it with a sandblaster. The newer windshield is holding up better than the old one, but that is likely due to not doing as much interstate driving.
Glass is glass .... there is not "soft"glass and "harder" glass
The difference is just where you are driving ....interstates, Sandy areas etc etc

The aerodynamics of the car is what causes the pitting and the corvette is not the only car to experience this issue ....
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:13 AM
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My friend had the w/s in his '13 GS replaced last year. The On-star box fell off, dangling by the wire. Dealer fixed it and it promptly fell off again. Does that box require a different windshield?
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthBaySurfer
My friend had the w/s in his '13 GS replaced last year. The On-star box fell off, dangling by the wire. Dealer fixed it and it promptly fell off again. Does that box require a different windshield?
Yes .... but I think the only difference is in the black ceramic frit that hides the box from the outside . I have to check

Clean off the ON STAR GPS box real well and just use 3M double face taped, the heavy duty black stuff from home depot

Be careful when sticking it as you can break the glass pushing it from the inside , make sure the glass is cool and apply a steady pressure... if done right it will not fall off again

Or , if he does not use on star... just unplug it and stuff the wire under the header trim
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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Here are the rules in Texas. As far as I know this is still the rule.

Anecdote: My wife's Acura was was hit lightly in the rear and needed the rear bumper cover replaced. The insurance company planned to use a reconditioned cover off of a junked car. I told them I wanted a new one and that's what I got at no additional cost. Checked the invoice at the Acura part's dept. to make sure that is where it came from.


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To: ALL COMPANIES, CORPORATIONS, EXCHANGES, MUTUALS, RECIPROCALS, ASSOCIATIONS, LLOYDS, COUNTY MUTUALS OR OTHER INSURERS WRITING PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND TO AGENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES AND THE PUBLIC GENERALLY


Re: Automobile Repair Facilities

The purpose of this Bulletin is to remind insurers of their responsibilities to first and third party claimants regarding claim payments for damage to motor vehicles. Commissioner's Bulletin No. B-0031-10 ( http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/bulletins/2010/cc30.html) was issued in August, 2010; however, reports of steering, limiting labor/reimbursement rates, and other potential unfair claim settlement practices continue to be received.

In accordance with Subchapter G, Chapter 1952 of the Texas Insurance Code and Title 28, Section 5.501 of the Texas Administrative Code, insurers have a responsibility to claimants regarding payment for damage to a motor vehicle and must comply with these provisions. Furthermore, insurers must not directly or indirectly require a claimant to use a specific repair person/facility or require the claimant to select a specific repair person/facility from a list provided by the insurer.

Section 1952.301 of the Texas Insurance Code specifies that an insurer may not directly or indirectly limit the insurer's coverage under a policy covering damage to a motor vehicle by:

(1) specifying the brand, type, kind, age, vendor, supplier, or condition of parts or products that may be used to repair the vehicle; or
(2) limiting the claimant of the policy from selecting a repair person or facility to repair damage to the vehicle.

Texas Insurance Code, Section 1952.302 specifies that an insurer, an employee or agent of an insurer, an insurance adjuster, or an entity that employs an insurance adjuster may not state or suggest, either orally or in writing, to a claimant that the claimant must use a specific repair person/facility, or a repair person/facility identified on a preferred list compiled by an insurer, for the damage repair or parts replacement to be covered by the policy.

Texas Administrative Code, Section 5.501 requires an insurer to provide a notice to the insured or third-party claimant who makes a claim regarding damage to a vehicle. The required notice specifies that a claimant has the right to select where a motor vehicle is repaired and parts used for repairs. The notice also specifies that an insurer is not required to pay more than a reasonable amount for such repairs and parts.
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Yep rules vary state by state , insurance company by insurance company , this is very easy to get around , they offer you one price to abide by the state laws ... but no law against offering you a cheaper price if you accept "like quality " replacement parts , the new policy that you buy for the cheaper price will have this specific wording in it and you agreed to it ......

Happens all the time and then folks want to argue that they want oem parts installed

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Old Jul 29, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SixAddict

SafeLite did mine a couple months ago, looks like the GM was buffed off that area, before install they ask what kind of windshield is needed, GPS box, HUD, ect. looks like mine was 1200 bucks, insurance covered it all as I have glass coverage on policy. you need it down here I average one windshield every two years or so ....
... also a good time to clean the HUD glass and the dash where it meets with window...did that both times I got the windshield replaced.
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 05:04 AM
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Where is it supposed to show the GM logo as well as HUD? I just realized that my windshield may have been replaced with one that isn't HUD... My HUD works but it's pretty dim...
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMricist_03
Where is it supposed to show the GM logo as well as HUD? I just realized that my windshield may have been replaced with one that isn't HUD... My HUD works but it's pretty dim...
Bottom right corner

Not having a HUD windshield has nothing at all to do with the brightness that is projected .... have you not read all the posts above by others and myself

Try to find someone with a C6 with HUD , look at the brightness of theirs, if yours is not as bright then it's your projector not the glass

Just asking ... but you do know there is a brightness control right?
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 08:12 PM
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I had a 2004 Grand Prix GTP that needed both driver's side door glass replaced (paid for by insurance). The dealer put in cheap off brand glass that didn't even have the same curvature as the original glass. I had to contact the State insurance bureau to get the insurance company to pay for GM glass. took about a month of bitching but I ended up with proper window glass.
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by farmington
I had a 2004 Grand Prix GTP that needed both driver's side door glass replaced (paid for by insurance). The dealer put in cheap off brand glass that didn't even have the same curvature as the original glass. I had to contact the State insurance bureau to get the insurance company to pay for GM glass. took about a month of bitching but I ended up with proper window glass.
Again , GM did NOT BEND that glass as there is no such thing as GM GLASS ....it was bent by an outside subcontractor to GM's specs and held to a much higher tolerance , most likely for a 2004 it was PPG or Pilkington , you would have gotten the same glass if you just asked for a PPG or Pilkington .......

Just like there is not Mercedes Glass , Lexus Glass , Porsche Glass , or any other manufacturer, none of the manufacturers have their own glass plants anymore , back in the day the only one who had one was Ford with their Carlite Brand

If you want to pay more to feel better about your choice then by all means order one from the dealer , want the same glass for a lot less , look at the DOT number on the corner of your class and ask your glass dealer to match the DOT number and supply you the same piece from the same supplier

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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Bottom right corner

Not having a HUD windshield has nothing at all to do with the brightness that is projected .... have you not read all the posts above by others and myself

Try to find someone with a C6 with HUD , look at the brightness of theirs, if yours is not as bright then it's your projector not the glass

Just asking ... but you do know there is a brightness control right?
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Crap, nothing is there...that's a bummer.. If it doesn't help the brightness then what is the difference between a HUD windshield and a normal one? I know the HUD windshield is polarized but idk why. Wouldn't a HUD still reflect off a normal windshield? I mean light reflects off glass...

Ohhhh ok, I used to have a C6 and the HUD was much brighter which is why I was thinking it was my windshield. Thanks for clearing that up. Still curious as to what makes HUD windshields, HUD windshields though.

Yeah, the **** that turns on the interior lights if you turn it all the way clockwise.
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 08:06 AM
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Not sure if you are serious or not so .......
If it doesn't help the brightness then what is the difference between a HUD windshield and a normal one?
Way to long of an answer to type here , trust me there is a difference in the interlayer
Wouldn't a HUD still reflect off a normal windshield?
Have you been reading thru this post or did you just jump in at the end ? Yes the Normal w/s will reflect the HUD just fine and you will never be able to tell the difference between a HUD and a NON HUD
Ohhhh ok, I used to have a C6 and the HUD was much brighter which is why I was thinking it was my windshield. Thanks for clearing that up.
Has nothing to do with the windshield as I stated MANY MANY TIMES above

Yeah, the **** that turns on the interior lights if you turn it all the way clockwise.
Well now there is your problem , if that **** is what you are trying to use to adjust your brightness in your HUD you got it all wrong ....

The HUD Brightness control , Mode and Height Adjustments are located in the POD to the left next to your speedometer behind your turn signal stalk and just above the dash brightness control you are turning ... see the picture below





I think you might need to read thru your owners manual lol

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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 10:56 AM
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Help this ol fart out then. If a "normal" windshield will project the HUD just fine....then why have a piece of HUD glass in the first place ?? Is this just another GM farce ??....inquiring minds want to know.....
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by windyC6
Help this ol fart out then. If a "normal" windshield will project the HUD just fine....then why have a piece of HUD glass in the first place ?? Is this just another GM farce ??....inquiring minds want to know.....
From page one the difference is......(insert drum roll here):

the difference is in the refraction properties of the interlayer
HUD glass is just a hair brighter than non-HUD.
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
From page one the difference is......(insert drum roll here):

HUD glass is just a hair brighter than non-HUD.
LOL LOL its a little more than that but ....

On some cars depending on the "bend" of the glass and the exact area that the HUD lens is projection to , you could get a fuzzy image or a double image

A HUD plastic interlayer focuses the image and refracts any inbound light thereby producing a cleaner and sharper image ( like a prism )

But as we have proven on the many folks C6 Corvettes that have HUD but not a HUD windshield , mine included , the HUD projects the image on a C6 windshield in an area that really does not need any " REFOCUSING " or "Refraction" and the little refocusing/refraction that does happen with a C6 HUD windshield really does not result in a better image ...maybe a tad brighter but nothing so great that the uneducated person can actually see a difference

read all about it here
http://www.s-lecfilm.com/eng/product...hud/index.html

Now there are other cars that you Absolutely , WITHOUT A DOUBT have to have a HUD windshield to display the HUD Info correctly on the screen , its just a C6 is not one of them
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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 02:01 PM
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FWIW I dislike being able to tell a car has been worked on.
Yet some replace OEM battery with aftermarket brand.

How much are you willing to pay for that OEM emblem glass?

If insurance dictates or unavailability of emblem glass is that diminished value?
I'd say yes.
But to what amount on a mass produced Vette?

Good luck in your decision.
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
LOL LOL its a little more than that but ....

On some cars depending on the "bend" of the glass and the exact area that the HUD lens is projection to , you could get a fuzzy image or a double image

A HUD plastic interlayer focuses the image and refracts any inbound light thereby producing a cleaner and sharper image ( like a prism )

But as we have proven on the many folks C6 Corvettes that have HUD but not a HUD windshield , mine included , the HUD projects the image on a C6 windshield in an area that really does not need any " REFOCUSING " or "Refraction" and the little refocusing/refraction that does happen with a C6 HUD windshield really does not result in a better image ...maybe a tad brighter but nothing so great that the uneducated person can actually see a difference

read all about it here
http://www.s-lecfilm.com/eng/product...hud/index.html

Now there are other cars that you Absolutely , WITHOUT A DOUBT have to have a HUD windshield to display the HUD Info correctly on the screen , its just a C6 is not one of them
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Well thanks for the info and thats definitely interesting. I'm afraid my **** butt though would have to see the HUD and non HUD side by side to actually see the diff....even if slight. Esp. now that i'm "educated" about the HUD glass....thanks....
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Originally Posted by windyC6
Well thanks for the info and thats definitely interesting. I'm afraid my **** butt though would have to see the HUD and non HUD side by side to actually see the diff....even if slight. Esp. now that i'm "educated" about the HUD glass....thanks....
You are very welcome .....glad I could explain it

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Originally Posted by Dcasole
You are very welcome .....glad I could explain it

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And now I have an expanded explanation to copy/paste the next time that question is asked.
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