Truth or BS?
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Truth or BS?
I've been toying with buying an air intake system (be it right or wrong!), and have been researching things for quite some time.
About 4 weeks ago I found a Hurricane intake system for my LS2 for $399.99. I thought that to be a very good price and contacted a company called "C6 Performance" to purchase it. We exchanged emails once or twice and all looked good. They were going to ship it.
But then the price changed - it went up $100. I then called them and spoke to a gentleman to ask what the deal was. He said, (as it turned out) they couldn't get them anymore. His "rep" had talked to West Coast Corvette, who oversees the making of the Hurricane, and said the guy had lost his lease and was no longer making the air intake systems.
It was a strange story to say the least. I personally think they didn't want to honor their advertised price of $399.99.
I call "BS" on C6 Performance - I'm interested in a Forum member's comment....
Thanks
Mike
About 4 weeks ago I found a Hurricane intake system for my LS2 for $399.99. I thought that to be a very good price and contacted a company called "C6 Performance" to purchase it. We exchanged emails once or twice and all looked good. They were going to ship it.
But then the price changed - it went up $100. I then called them and spoke to a gentleman to ask what the deal was. He said, (as it turned out) they couldn't get them anymore. His "rep" had talked to West Coast Corvette, who oversees the making of the Hurricane, and said the guy had lost his lease and was no longer making the air intake systems.
It was a strange story to say the least. I personally think they didn't want to honor their advertised price of $399.99.
I call "BS" on C6 Performance - I'm interested in a Forum member's comment....
Thanks
Mike
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My comment would be to put this in the Transactions Feedback Forum; https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-feedback-153/
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if they changed the price during your negotiations that is called cheating, bad business.
cold air intake is proven science, i made my own because i felt like people were trying to rip me off. Physics, cold air creates more power than hot air and believe me you will hear a lot of it when talking on this topic. I have one , I know it works, and I'm not going to debate it here or anywhere else. If you want one just make sure you get a real one not just an air filter.
cold air intake is proven science, i made my own because i felt like people were trying to rip me off. Physics, cold air creates more power than hot air and believe me you will hear a lot of it when talking on this topic. I have one , I know it works, and I'm not going to debate it here or anywhere else. If you want one just make sure you get a real one not just an air filter.
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...and I'm sure you'll feel an instant, powerful kick in the butt with a CAI...Not! Driving around with a half tank of gas will probably be a more significant increase in power due to the weight reduction. Like others have said, you saved your hard earned money.
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[QUOTE=ls1121;1596627504]if they changed the price during your negotiations that is called cheating, bad business.
Huh? Changing a price [or any other term] during a negotiation is in fact a negotiation. Nothing wrong with that. Changing a price after you have agreed to a lower one is obviously a no-no.
Huh? Changing a price [or any other term] during a negotiation is in fact a negotiation. Nothing wrong with that. Changing a price after you have agreed to a lower one is obviously a no-no.
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The debate over "worth it or not?" from a performance standpoint notwithstanding... the issue over pricing is indeed BS and probably not a good idea to deal with that particular company.
In regards to "bang for the buck" performance increase, based on CAI experiences with other rigs... I would concur that there is a nominal increase in bhp - and even that won't really happen unless you open up the other end and help the exhaust gasses extract easier too. So there is that to consider... gotta do both ends.
In regards to "bang for the buck" performance increase, based on CAI experiences with other rigs... I would concur that there is a nominal increase in bhp - and even that won't really happen unless you open up the other end and help the exhaust gasses extract easier too. So there is that to consider... gotta do both ends.
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Like many who have already chimed in, I could not bring myself to cough up $400 for questionable results. All I wanted was a consistent source of ambient air available to the intake opening on my GS. So I made my own shroud. Independent test has shown it keeps the nasty hot air out but I don't have HP numbers.
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As for cold air: How hot is the air under the hood when the car is moving? Probably not much more than outside ambient, certainly not enough to make any noticeable performance difference.
As someone said, the weight-savings from driving around with a half-tank of gas instead of full is probably a better performance idea. Or, if you're fat, lose some weight.
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It might get some ram-air effect at 120-150+ MPH. One can only hope that the computer realizes that it is getting extra air and adds more fuel to compensate. I pondered this here more than once, and nobody has ever commented on it.
As for cold air: How hot is the air under the hood when the car is moving? Probably not much more than outside ambient, certainly not enough to make any noticeable performance difference.
As someone said, the weight-savings from driving around with a half-tank of gas instead of full is probably a better performance idea. Or, if you're fat, lose some weight.
As for cold air: How hot is the air under the hood when the car is moving? Probably not much more than outside ambient, certainly not enough to make any noticeable performance difference.
As someone said, the weight-savings from driving around with a half-tank of gas instead of full is probably a better performance idea. Or, if you're fat, lose some weight.
First off you don't have to be going 120+ for any of them to work, and I can't really talk about ones I have not tested but I can talk about the Mamba. The comment was made that the car will compensate. That is not true and you are missing the point of what a CAI does, a good one anyways. You are getting better VE with it and when you do that you make more power. It is the same effect with headers, when you introduce the scavenging from the headers, you get clean air and fuel in the cylinder and that alone makes more power. The CAI is the same thing, we are increasing the pressure in the intake manifold thus getting a better VE.
So who want to talk about legal advice or medical recommendations??
Since we have a bunch of everyone guessing at what works and what doesn't maybe you would like to take some legal or medical advice from me since I am neither a lawyer or a doctor.
JA
