Snow Plowing
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Burning Brakes
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From: Friday Harbor WA
Snow Plowing
Have a Round About in town, heard they cure cancer yanno! Anyway, I was feeling squirrely entering the Round About and goosed the gas a little bit hoping to hang the rear end out some and dang if I didn't almost snowplow straight into the curb! Had to really get on the brakes to avoid that curb! I understand understeer and all that, but I don't understand why the front didn't grab at all? The tires had 30 psi all around, the road was wet. Is it the oem Goodyear Eagle RFs, the alignment? Is it the handling and/or traction control messing with things. The same thing happened about a year ago. Have any of you experienced a similar situation?
Le Mans Master
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If it was t/c, you likely would have felt it. Too many variables to know what happened, but here is one idea. Perhaps, the curvature of the roundabout is not as tight as you thought. There may not have been enough curvature to force the rear end out with just a throttle blip. If you don't reduce the radius of the turn while goosing it, it takes more power to hang the rear out. Also, the wet impacts the traction of the front tires as much as the rear...i.e., the fronts are more likely to plow when the road is wet than when it is dry.
Burning Brakes
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From: Twisp WA
I suspect the temp was below 50 degs F. Add moisture and you will find it very easy to have the car go curb hunting if you get on it a bit. Nice thing about the C-7 is the program-ability of the cars traction nanny's. Had a rainy day at a driving school and learned a ton about driving a Corvette in the rain at track speeds, through puddles and ever changing wet/dry conditions. It was worth the price of admission to drift the car through corners just on the edge of curb hunting.
Also the older the GY tires get the harder they get and have less and less traction in all conditions.
-G
Also the older the GY tires get the harder they get and have less and less traction in all conditions.
-G
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Burning Brakes
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From: Friday Harbor WA
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Burning Brakes
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From: Friday Harbor WA
Thank ya'll for your input, much appreciated. I know the tires suck, no doubt that and they are as good as gone as soon as I can come up with a spare $2000 for Michelin Pilot 4S.
Yes, it was most likely below 50 degrees and with wet pavement, valid point! Thanks!
I believe Buck hit the nail on the head, need to get more into the apex or curvature of the Round About before hitting the gas. I'll find a vacant parking lot and experiment as I have no desire to smack a curb. Curbs are not on my menu, but a little drifting from time to time might be! : )
Thanks!
Yes, it was most likely below 50 degrees and with wet pavement, valid point! Thanks!
I believe Buck hit the nail on the head, need to get more into the apex or curvature of the Round About before hitting the gas. I'll find a vacant parking lot and experiment as I have no desire to smack a curb. Curbs are not on my menu, but a little drifting from time to time might be! : )
Thanks!
Le Mans Master
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From: Las Vegas Nevada
Thank ya'll for your input, much appreciated. I know the tires suck, no doubt that and they are as good as gone as soon as I can come up with a spare $2000 for Michelin Pilot 4S.
Yes, it was most likely below 50 degrees and with wet pavement, valid point! Thanks!
I believe Buck hit the nail on the head, need to get more into the apex or curvature of the Round About before hitting the gas. I'll find a vacant parking lot and experiment as I have no desire to smack a curb. Curbs are not on my menu, but a little drifting from time to time might be! : )
Thanks!
Yes, it was most likely below 50 degrees and with wet pavement, valid point! Thanks!
I believe Buck hit the nail on the head, need to get more into the apex or curvature of the Round About before hitting the gas. I'll find a vacant parking lot and experiment as I have no desire to smack a curb. Curbs are not on my menu, but a little drifting from time to time might be! : )
Thanks!
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LOL, been there. It is a simple matter of dynamics and friction. If your front tires break free before the rear, you understeer and vice versa. To have predominately oversteer, keep the front wheels "straighter" and apply lots of gas, to get understeer, increase turn angle and slowly come on the gas.
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In wet weather ... how about just driving the car like you would any other regular car ... such as a Camry
Do you really benefit from "feeling squirrely" and "goosing" the gas pedal going around a tight turn when it's cold and wet outside ?
Maybe I just don't get the Big Picture ?
Do you really benefit from "feeling squirrely" and "goosing" the gas pedal going around a tight turn when it's cold and wet outside ?
Maybe I just don't get the Big Picture ?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Friday Harbor WA
In wet weather ... how about just driving the car like you would any other regular car ... such as a Camry
Do you really benefit from "feeling squirrely" and "goosing" the gas pedal going around a tight turn when it's cold and wet outside ?
Maybe I just don't get the Big Picture ?
Do you really benefit from "feeling squirrely" and "goosing" the gas pedal going around a tight turn when it's cold and wet outside ?
Maybe I just don't get the Big Picture ?
Or maybe you need to go lay out in the grass with the rest of the turds!
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Burning Brakes
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when you try something dangerous
That is exactly what you are going to get!! Maybe a big ope parking lot would have given you the expected results!!. Personally I have never tried to loose control of my vehicle!
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I'd rather know how my car handles in certain situations and get the feel for it before the need to find out arises all of a sudden for the first time.
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windyC6 .....
Be careful what you say to the OP, or he will tell you like he told me .... "you need to go lay out in the grass with the rest of the turds"!
Be careful what you say to the OP, or he will tell you like he told me .... "you need to go lay out in the grass with the rest of the turds"!
