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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 07:55 AM
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So far my 07 C6 doesn’t force the issue often, so Im curious, does it really need to be defeated to begin with? Seems to be an easier way to avoid this is simply to wind up just enough from a stop, for it to not ask. If you are driving in a spirited manner, I cant imagine the system would even be trying to lock you out..or will it? Im relatively new to the Corvettes, but have had a few “what the heck” moments with other cars equipped similar or far worse nanny’s installed. Start/Stop systems make no sense to me, isnt that going to be harder on the car over time? My jeep cherokee trailhawk was nearly un drivable with that crap on it, stuttering from stoplights, lagging in traffic..270 hp motor in there and all i could think about is..man..is this thing gonna shut off if im in the middle of a climb or hill decen? Probably not, but could it fail in any way..maybe? Thats not a great feeling to have in the middle of any off-road situation. So yeah that one I defeated..but does anyone here feel strongly about removing this feature from their Corvette? If so, whats the solution you used to accomplish this? Whats the Actual hack? Ive seen chips and rattails, electronic snake oil, and one Chant written by a dude on ebay named Doctor Haulasstic..ok so the last couple I made up.. but there is a Blade style Fuse defeat that looks completely bogus for 13 dollars.
So anything that’s absolutely a scam I would like to hear about, any Technical folks want to dispel or advocate for or against defeating the feature would be cool to hear. And ultimately the best way to accomplish this hack would be a good thing to know. Products or procedures that wont harm your car or wallet is what I would like to be educated on. Thanks in advance. Happy motoring
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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This is an old thread but may help:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...instructs.html

The original owner of my 2013 / 427 installed this item (provided original purchase receipt):

https://www.southerncarparts.com/cor...tor-p-104.html

A friend ordered and self-installed on his 2010 GS, quick and easy from what I was told, no more skip shift.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by VINAL13
This is an old thread but may help:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...instructs.html

The original owner of my 2013 / 427 installed this item (provided original purchase receipt):

https://www.southerncarparts.com/cor...tor-p-104.html

A friend ordered and self-installed on his 2010 GS, quick and easy from what I was told, no more skip shift.
Sweet, thanks! Is this an issue for your car? When I ask that I suppose I really mean, is it problematic to you, and do you run with it enabled or disabled?
I have friends with some really strong feelings about doing the mod, but honestly im neither here nor there. Im really interested in stories where this feature may have Contributed to a dangerous circumstance, or got in the way of performance. Because if thats nil, I may just leave it be.
Anyhow thanks for the link..maybe I oughtta check the archives before blurting out post topics next time.. heh.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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I have an '05 with the skip shift nonsense. It is easy to to just go over 2500rpm's or if you don't, shift into fourth then immediately back into second.
Once I got used to it I have no problem with it. There are fixes for it if you want.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kt2007C6!
Sweet, thanks! Is this an issue for your car? When I ask that I suppose I really mean, is it problematic to you, and do you run with it enabled or disabled?
I have friends with some really strong feelings about doing the mod, but honestly im neither here nor there. Im really interested in stories where this feature may have Contributed to a dangerous circumstance, or got in the way of performance. Because if thats nil, I may just leave it be.
Anyhow thanks for the link..maybe I oughtta check the archives before blurting out post topics next time.. heh.
Has no effect on my 427 as far as I know, the original owner said he installed it since he did not enjoy being told he couldn't shift, as installed it is enabled all the time.

My friend with the 2010 GS who is very "careful" when it comes to adding the most simple modifications to any car he owns, I am sure he did a ton of research before adding the mod to his car so I am confident there has been no reported issues unless the mod was installed incorrectly.

I am aware that if you drive / shift a certain way you will never see the skip-shift prompt but I figured the mod is so inexpensive why not put it in place?

If my 427 did not have it already installed I would have done it for sure.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 02:03 PM
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The day that skip shift resulted in me missing a shift and nearly causing an accident it was gone.... YMMV
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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Here you go, since on the C6, the Cags system runs alone on fuse #10. Hence system can see through the reisistor you don't get any codes, but not enough wattage can get past the solinod to allow it to engauge isntead. Also, don't have to get under the car like on the C5 to add the resistor in line just before the trans, where the cags and other systems where on the same fuse alone and could not just swap out the #10 fuse to a 2.2k resisistor in the fuse box instead.


If your soldering skills suck, and you don't want to just blow a safety fuse to use it, then here is a 2.2K resistor fuse you can buy to install instead.
https://www.corvettemods.com/C6-Corv...se_p_4975.html

Note, your still going to have the 1-4 shift light come on in the dash, but will not be locked out of third. If you want to stop the 1-4 shift light from coming on in the dash, then will need to go in with a tuner to change the Cags perimeters in the tune.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 02:39 PM
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The skip shift is really only a factor when you are stuck in traffic and just dawdling along, got to shift to second and it forces you into 4th at way too low a speed. But it's so easy and cheap to put the blown LED fuse in the fuse box that I do not understand why anyone bothers with the inline plug at the transmission. You can make your own for the price of just a fuse.
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I did the fuse replacement one. Instead of buying the skip shift eliminator I used the fuse with the light in it in the fuse panel under hood. No more making me shift into 4th
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 03:29 PM
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I put the B&M skip shift in my 07 Z06 and took it out when I sold it to get my 13. It's a PITA when your driving an it just forces you t o 4th in traffic. Simple easy fix.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_gallup
I do not understand why anyone bothers with the inline plug at the transmission. You can make your own for the price of just a fuse.
Two reasons to use the inline resistor.... it costs half the price if you purchase them online... and... the blown fuse methods have a tendency to fail after a period of time. Really not a big deal either way. I can install the resistor as fast as I can the fuse, but I do have a floor jack next to the vette.

YMMV
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:37 PM
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I put the skip shift on the tranny plug. Hardest part was jacking up the vette.

Best mod I ever did to my 05.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 10:54 PM
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I purchased the skip shift fuse and it worked perfectly without any issues. I then bought a Diablo tuner and it had the option to remove the ship shift feature via tune. With the fuse, the dash light will still come on, but the skip shift feature won't function. Removing it with a tune, the entire feature is disabled including the dash light.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 11:23 PM
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is it something you can tune out? ever since my supercharger, i havent had it pop up even in normal driving.
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Originally Posted by pullthatwigback
is it something you can tune out? ever since my supercharger, i havent had it pop up even in normal driving.
Yes, the CAGS can be tuned out.

There are several criteria that have to be met before skip shift is engaged. Engine temperature is one of them. When it's tuned it out just set the temperature to something unreasonable like 500 degrees.
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Originally Posted by pullthatwigback
is it something you can tune out? ever since my supercharger, i havent had it pop up even in normal driving.
Yes, your tuner most likely disabled it via tune.
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Originally Posted by pullthatwigback
is it something you can tune out? ever since my supercharger, i havent had it pop up even in normal driving.
Most likely your tuner just did it while in the tune. I recently installed an A&A setup on a 2009 base model and tuned it. I tuned out CAGS while in as a courtesy.

There are a number of ways to accomplish, the most popular of which is maxing the ECT which I usually do. Any will work to completely eliminate CAGS as the new threshold could never be reached. I could also change enable speed. or baro too (or all of the above). They all have windows large enough in the tune table to never be accomplished in the real world (thanks GM). I am guessing, BC I can't see inside, but Diablosport is likely just doing the ECT via a menu driven SW.

Here are factory CAGS parameters on an E38, then followed by the one I just tuned.





BTW, it is not practical to access the tune just to tune out CAGS. Of the other ways, I don't like the fuse one albeit the easiest. The trans resistor is more reliable and more permanent.

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Thanks to everyone who posted on this, I will likely go ahead with the mod. Its inexpensive and eliminates the possibility of being interrupted mid shift..I appreciate all your help and thoughts on the matter.
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