Paddle shift vs. manual
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Also worth noting that if you do own an a6 C6 the single most beneficial thing you can do for it is get a trans tune. GM has the factory programing so lethargic in these things that its not even funny. You'll feel like you picked up a 100hp.
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If you were buying a Hellcat- I would say the autos paddle shift is actually worth while - they really nailed the upshifts.
in the GM stuff- the autos are sloppy to respond to manual input. The 6L80 and 8L90e are the worse, the 10L80E is better but still not as responsive as the ZF in the Mopar products .
buy the manual- the lag in the 8L90e in the C7Z06 was enough to keep me from buying it and I ended up with a manual.
in the GM stuff- the autos are sloppy to respond to manual input. The 6L80 and 8L90e are the worse, the 10L80E is better but still not as responsive as the ZF in the Mopar products .
buy the manual- the lag in the 8L90e in the C7Z06 was enough to keep me from buying it and I ended up with a manual.
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One time when I was looking to purchase a new car. I told the salesman that it must be a manual. He then shows me a car and acts like it’s a stick shift because of the paddle buttons. I closed the door and left.
What’s the point of paddle shifting? Please someone explain why it even exists. To try and make manual transmission owners happy? Nothing is better than down shifting while double clutching like you should while accelerating. You feel one with the vehicle. In control. But people today don’t really care about any of that or know what they are missing.
What’s the point of paddle shifting? Please someone explain why it even exists. To try and make manual transmission owners happy? Nothing is better than down shifting while double clutching like you should while accelerating. You feel one with the vehicle. In control. But people today don’t really care about any of that or know what they are missing.
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One time when I was looking to purchase a new car. I told the salesman that it must be a manual. He then shows me a car and acts like it’s a stick shift because of the paddle buttons. I closed the door and left.
What’s the point of paddle shifting? Please someone explain why it even exists. To try and make manual transmission owners happy? Nothing is better than down shifting while double clutching like you should while accelerating. You feel one with the vehicle. In control. But people today don’t really care about any of that or know what they are missing.
What’s the point of paddle shifting? Please someone explain why it even exists. To try and make manual transmission owners happy? Nothing is better than down shifting while double clutching like you should while accelerating. You feel one with the vehicle. In control. But people today don’t really care about any of that or know what they are missing.
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We came from the C5 world with automatics and I always loved them, so our 2013 GS with paddle shifting for the past year has been an upgrade for me. In my later years, especially now as a recent cancer survivor, the automatic is probably the right choice in planning ahead for a long term ownership.
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Is the tune usually done through HP Tuners? I assume they raise line pressure and remove some of the Torque Management?
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Yep HPTuners primarily. You do bump line pressures a bit but most of it is in the shift scheduling. Most good tuners won't reduce torque management entirely. Theirs programs you can input various things like weight, stall speed, gearing, desired shift rpm, ect. and it will help populate tables to make the trans behave the way you want it too.
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Yep HPTuners primarily. You do bump line pressures a bit but most of it is in the shift scheduling. Most good tuners won't reduce torque management entirely. Theirs programs you can input various things like weight, stall speed, gearing, desired shift rpm, ect. and it will help populate tables to make the trans behave the way you want it too.
Definitely a necessity for any GM auto - it still won’t make the paddles respond any faster but it certainly improves the shifting .
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Yeah def doesn't make the paddles any faster. I wouldn't say they're horrible by any means but def no DCT... Drive something with a PDK once and you'll question your life choices.
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Honestly driving my wife’s M4 made me question my earlier devout commitment to American cars. (Currently have a Z06, Hellcat, Viper, Hellcat, TRX)
Funnily driving a Hellcat with the auto made me question being a GM guy. (Had a CTSV before it). And the ZF transmission in the Hellcat was SO much better than the 6L90 or the 8L90 .
I’ve resolved to Just buying the best product instead of being a fan of any brand .
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Yep. My next big purchase will be a GT2RS.
Honestly driving my wife’s M4 made me question my earlier devout commitment to American cars. (Currently have a Z06, Hellcat, Viper, Hellcat, TRX)
Funnily driving a Hellcat with the auto made me question being a GM guy. (Had a CTSV before it). And the ZF transmission in the Hellcat was SO much better than the 6L90 or the 8L90 .
I’ve resolved to Just buying the best product instead of being a fan of any brand .
Honestly driving my wife’s M4 made me question my earlier devout commitment to American cars. (Currently have a Z06, Hellcat, Viper, Hellcat, TRX)
Funnily driving a Hellcat with the auto made me question being a GM guy. (Had a CTSV before it). And the ZF transmission in the Hellcat was SO much better than the 6L90 or the 8L90 .
I’ve resolved to Just buying the best product instead of being a fan of any brand .
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Yep HPTuners primarily. You do bump line pressures a bit but most of it is in the shift scheduling. Most good tuners won't reduce torque management entirely. Theirs programs you can input various things like weight, stall speed, gearing, desired shift rpm, ect. and it will help populate tables to make the trans behave the way you want it too.
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For me if I put the car in drive and let it do its thing and you aren't on the throttle the short shifts just done do it for me, with the paddles I can at least be accelerating normal and shift it at like 2000-2500. The first year I got the car I let the computer do the shifting, all last year I did it with the paddles and it just makes it a little more fun and sporty LOL. I didn't really miss my manual transmission until I drove my old 95 trans-am and the T-56 with pro 5.0 shifter brought me back down memory lane
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only if you wanna mess with it yourself, if not just let your tuner set it and forget it. I’ve had an mvpi1 since my f-body days and probably have 30 something vehicles on my cable just from different stuff we’ve messed with over the years. I’m far from a tuner but I like to tinker within my means lol. It’s a nice thing to have but def not necessary