911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51
06-08-2004, 06:21 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (thevettenet CA)
Most GT3 orders are opting out of the ceramic brakes, as they have a tendency to crack. Most people are sticking with the iron rotors.
Wow that is a big problem!!!!!!
Is little surprising because one of Porsches strenghts is their overall quality and durability that their cars have......
The ceramics also add over $8K to the price tag, if I recall correctly....
Wow that is a big problem!!!!!!
Is little surprising because one of Porsches strenghts is their overall quality and durability that their cars have......
The ceramics also add over $8K to the price tag, if I recall correctly....
C6 Vette Est "base price"+ Z51 $48,500
Assuming a Z51 C6 performs very close to a C5 Z06, does anyone here see a difference in the performance of the two that justifies $51,400?
Note Est C6 price:
C5 base $44,635
C6 rumors add $ 2,000
Z51 rumors add $ 1,500
margin for error $ 365
Total $48,500 estimate
[Modified by LongTimer, 11:22 PM 6/8/2004]
06-08-2004, 09:43 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (LongTimer)
I don't have a Porsche but have been looking at them. The are starting model changes like Corvette. There are rumors of a 450 HP turbo coming next year with 6-speed auto and a double-clutch manual transmission.
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
06-08-2004, 10:41 PM
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I don't have a Porsche but have been looking at them. The are starting model changes like Corvette. There are rumors of a 450 HP turbo coming next year with 6-speed auto and a double-clutch manual transmission.
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
The new Z06 will smoke it!!!!!!
06-08-2004, 11:00 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (ivan111)
I don't have a Porsche but have been looking at them. The are starting model changes like Corvette. There are rumors of a 450 HP turbo coming next year with 6-speed auto and a double-clutch manual transmission.
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
Is that it for the next Turbo 450hp?
The new Z06 will smoke it!!!!!!
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
Is that it for the next Turbo 450hp?
The new Z06 will smoke it!!!!!!
If you can't run with the big dogs (500 HP), stay on the porch 
06-08-2004, 11:33 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (need-for-speed)
And I'm thinkin the new Z is going to set you back 70k at the most where as the Turbo would be more like 120+k. Nice work GM. 
06-21-2004, 02:41 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (Dsob15)
Yes, but the GT3 has only 375 or 380hp. The torque in the vette makes up for the weight difference.
06-22-2004, 06:58 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (Jay_Dee_55)
Yes, but the GT3 has only 375 or 380hp. The torque in the vette makes up for the weight difference.
I was out at Pocono Raceway last Saturday there was a GT3 among a few ZO6s. The GT3 was faster. I went over to speak to the GT3 owner and he said except for the seats, the car was stock. I couldn't believe how fast the GT3 was. I was really shocked!!
I was out at Pocono Raceway last Saturday there was a GT3 among a few ZO6s. The GT3 was faster. I went over to speak to the GT3 owner and he said except for the seats, the car was stock. I couldn't believe how fast the GT3 was. I was really shocked!!
07-02-2004, 12:29 AM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (04msmZ06)
Keep in mind that these numbers are achieved in the GT3 WITHOUT power
shifting. On average, the car mags came up with 0-60 times of 4.3 sec. or
lower in the GT3. As a reference point, Dave Hill and the factory drivers
touted 3.9 sec. 0-60 and 12.4 @ 116 for the quarter for the C5 '02+ Z06.
This was done WITH power shifting and a few other corrections (see CQ
Spring 2002 issue). But, the car mags. always came up with anywhere from
4.29 - 4.7 0-60 and all the way up to 13.1 @ 111 mph for the quarter for the
C5 '02+ Z06. Now, Dave Hill and gang are saying 4.1 0-60 for the Z51 C6.
Once again, this is done WITH power shifting. So, there's at least a .3 to .8
diff. between what the factory claims and what the car mags. will produce
because the car mags. DON'T power shift. I'd say count on 4.4 secs.
0-60 /12.5 or so in the 1/4 mile as the absolute best times the mags. will
produce in the Z51 C6. That's very quick, but those numbers will be just a
little bit short of the GT3.
[Modified by 04msmZ06, 3:17 AM 6/6/2004]
Also, the higher 0-60 times that the mags originally reported where they couldn't get the factory claims was in the 2001 Z06, not the subsequent years with the extra 20 hp.
07-02-2004, 12:33 AM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (Sandy S)
I don't have a Porsche but have been looking at them. The are starting model changes like Corvette. There are rumors of a 450 HP turbo coming next year with 6-speed auto and a double-clutch manual transmission.
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
Rumors say the gear box gives 3.7 sec to 100km/h (about 62 mph) and top speed of 305 km/h (189mph).
07-02-2004, 09:53 AM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (Dsob15)
All corvettes are red and all porsche's are fugly.......
But the gt would beat the c6
[Modified by kornblind, 11:52 AM 7/2/2004]
But the gt would beat the c6
[Modified by kornblind, 11:52 AM 7/2/2004]
07-02-2004, 10:09 PM
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Re: 911 GT3 vrs. C6 Z51 (Dsob15)
As long as everytime they produce a new Porsche they keep comparing it to a Corvette and talk about how much better it is I'll stay with the Corvette.
07-11-2004, 01:55 PM
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The GT3 with Ceramic brakes (PCCB) suck! ....They do not last long and cost $8k for each rotor!.........Who ever bought them with there Porsche will take them off for track use or will throught them out.
The GT3 does lows 12's in the 1/4
The GT3 does lows 12's in the 1/4
07-11-2004, 06:11 PM
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[QUOTE=04msmZ06][quote] The C6 does have a much higher top speed. Dave Hill was talking about a road course when he said the C6 gets back 3 of those seconds. That's quite different than running the cars on a high speed oval where the C6 would pull away.
It's not a MUCH higher top speed (174 C5 Z06 vs. 180 drag limited for
base C6). And, the Corvette forte is road courses, not ovals. I don't know of
any races involving Corvettes that are run on oval tracks.
[Modified by 04msmZ06, 11:12 PM 6/7/2004]
Hmmmm, sounds to me like someone has C6 envy, LOL.
It's not a MUCH higher top speed (174 C5 Z06 vs. 180 drag limited for
base C6). And, the Corvette forte is road courses, not ovals. I don't know of
any races involving Corvettes that are run on oval tracks.
[Modified by 04msmZ06, 11:12 PM 6/7/2004]
Hmmmm, sounds to me like someone has C6 envy, LOL.
07-11-2004, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsob15
And I'm thinkin the new Z is going to set you back 70k at the most where as the Turbo would be more like 120+k. Nice work GM.
07-12-2004, 05:30 PM
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The quality of the materials on the 997 better be a lot better than the over abundance of plastics used on the 996. A friend of mine recently sold his new 996 because he could not believe the amount of sqeaks and rattles associated with a car that had a sticker price well north of $75,000.
