[Z06] $65000 Z06 (505hp) VS $45000 (400hp) C6 VS $39000 GT500 (475hp)
#61
Drifting
Originally Posted by Nat04Z06
You know, I was thinking the same thing. When I first typed '00 Cobra R, something didn't look right so I changed it to '01. My bad. He was probably just following my lead. Thanks for correcting that. Seriously though, do you think a pulley alone will be enough to catapult the Gt500 ahead of the Z06? Can a pulley really make that much of a difference? Will it still be safe?
#62
Drifting
3850 my sentiments EXACTLY
Originally Posted by phantasms
three eight five zero
that's all i have to say about the GT500
that's all i have to say about the GT500
With a curb weight of 3850# and A 57% front weight bias and tires that will be totally over taxed this vehicle is of no interest AND NO competion for the ZO6
#63
Team Owner
Member Since: Apr 2002
Location: All humans are vermin in the eyes of Guru VA
Posts: 62,198
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
Yes and no. I say yes because pullied 03/04 cobras have been putting down a little over 500 at the wheels with nothing but a pulley and a good tune. This with more displacement and much better heads it should do even better. I would bet that with a smaller blower pulley, bigger crank pulley, full exhaust, drop in air filter, and a good tune this car will put down 600+rwhp. If they used the whipple supercharger like the one on the GT (like they should have and is the reason I am not buying one) that number would jump up to 700+. The reason I say no though is because we don't know that pulley swaps will be as easy as they were with the previous cobra. This blower uses a clutch type pulley like the AMG's use. This was due to many cobra owners swapping pulleys and then they would bring there car in for "the tick" and their warranty would be denied.
#64
Drifting
Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Unless they are using the 3.3L compressor which their not, they are sort of limited to 600hp by the blower.
#65
Originally Posted by 6speedC6
They are using the twin screw whipple supercharger I have friends with the stock Eaton on 03/04s with 2:73 pulleys with other mods putting down well over 500rwhp. The whipple is well capable of 600
#66
Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Unless they are using the 3.3L compressor which their not, they are sort of limited to 600hp by the blower.
#67
Drifting
Member Since: May 2005
Location: santa rosa beach florida
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
It is amazing to me how someone who is SO uninformed can make themselves look SO stupid and at the same time be SO sure of themselves. The 03/04 cobras were rated at 390hp. If you knew how to spot the differences between years of cobras I would imagine you would know this. Also if you knew anything about the car you would know that most dyno in the 370-380 range. Also there was no 01 Cobra r it was a 00. I am personally dissappointed with the new GT500 but I can't wait until you run into a pullied one in your new Z and get your *** handed to you.
#68
My bud had a GT on order since jan and the dealer gave him back
his dep, and said he can not get the car for him. This happend
on 6/10/05 . looks like Ford will not be able to make enought of
them to go around. My son in law is a Ford GM and his store
wanted to get 50 of them, but they can only get 8. I don't
think we will see very many of them around.
his dep, and said he can not get the car for him. This happend
on 6/10/05 . looks like Ford will not be able to make enought of
them to go around. My son in law is a Ford GM and his store
wanted to get 50 of them, but they can only get 8. I don't
think we will see very many of them around.
#69
Safety Car
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Corpus Christi Texas
Posts: 3,990
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
That's what a lot of people (cough corvette owners cough) don't understand. They can sit back and tell you all day that the corvette will handle better than a cobra. And they are right. But how many of them drive their car to such limits that the cobra will not be able to keep up. Not many.
#70
Drifting
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
No they aren't using the whipple. The twin screw on the Ford GT is the 2.3L unit from whipple. But whipple and eaton are the same company so eaton gets the OEM blowers and whipple gets the aftermarket. So even though the blower on the GT is a twin screw it is still called an eaton because it is a production car. This is why there was still hope when they said there would be a twinscrew eaton on the GT500. But I read a recent magazine article (motor trend I think) and they said it would be a roots style eaton m112.
#71
Coolest Guy Evar!
Originally Posted by bunk22
Same goes with the mustang crowd. I made a comment over at SVTPerformance about how the new C6 was overall the better car, at least compared to the 03/04 Cobra. Needless to say it was moved to the smackdown session and I've been called names, challenged, etc. Point is, most haven't owned both or spent much time in both. It at least helps to know the ins and outs of the cars than just hating because it's a mustang or a chevy.
-RR
#72
Drifting
Originally Posted by bunk22
Same goes with the mustang crowd. I made a comment over at SVTPerformance about how the new C6 was overall the better car, at least compared to the 03/04 Cobra. Needless to say it was moved to the smackdown session and I've been called names, challenged, etc. Point is, most haven't owned both or spent much time in both. It at least helps to know the ins and outs of the cars than just hating because it's a mustang or a chevy.
#73
Originally Posted by blandcastle
obviously the uninformed one is you. You don't have a clue! The new Z will easily beat the gt 500. especially if a decnt driver is at the wheel. the best part of the whole thing is you have to put a special part ona car that costs twice what the new z will just to be competitive with it.
#74
Originally Posted by bunk22
Same goes with the mustang crowd. I made a comment over at SVTPerformance about how the new C6 was overall the better car, at least compared to the 03/04 Cobra. Needless to say it was moved to the smackdown session and I've been called names, challenged, etc. Point is, most haven't owned both or spent much time in both. It at least helps to know the ins and outs of the cars than just hating because it's a mustang or a chevy.
#75
Originally Posted by 6speedC6
I'm sorry to hear that since I also post there and other SVT/mustang forum. When I posted a pic and told them I bought a C6 I got alot of postive comments and congrats. Remember there are alot of "KIDS" posting on those boards. They may know their mustang but don't know sh*t about anything else. I've posted this many time that I own both and drive both and they are totally different cars that you can't compare.
#76
Safety Car
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Corpus Christi Texas
Posts: 3,990
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
Yeah I think I remember your car on there. Was it the victory red one? I'm actually really surprised that the guys over there said anything bad about corvettes because they are usually really open to all cars from supras to corvettes and even some Ford GTs.
For those interested, here's the thread and I go by the same screen name, bunk22:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...6&goto=newpost
#78
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Jul 2000
Location: Peoria IL
Posts: 2,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 99GTvert
Yes and no. I say yes because pullied 03/04 cobras have been putting down a little over 500 at the wheels with nothing but a pulley and a good tune. This with more displacement and much better heads it should do even better. I would bet that with a smaller blower pulley, bigger crank pulley, full exhaust, drop in air filter, and a good tune this car will put down 600+rwhp. If they used the whipple supercharger like the one on the GT (like they should have and is the reason I am not buying one) that number would jump up to 700+. The reason I say no though is because we don't know that pulley swaps will be as easy as they were with the previous cobra. This blower uses a clutch type pulley like the AMG's use. This was due to many cobra owners swapping pulleys and then they would bring there car in for "the tick" and their warranty would be denied.
#79
Safety Car
Member Since: May 2005
Location: Corpus Christi Texas
Posts: 3,990
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by 6speedC6
Hey Bunk
Check the thread. I posted a comment, lets see if anyone shoots at it!!!
Check the thread. I posted a comment, lets see if anyone shoots at it!!!
#80
Haa... see what you started. Good thread and interesting posts. Funny how the GM camp comes out against the Ford folks. (this is a Corvette forum....) and then someone mentions America against the imports... I just love cars. Sure, I am very partial to Corvettes, then any GM product, then to an American product... then any car. Whether it be a Z06, GT500, 911, NSX, 69 Chevelle with a rat motor... I am going to mash the loud pedal and get it sideways. No offense to the NCRS guys... but... if you are going to drive it... drive like it's stolen!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAA... clunk.... WAAAAAAAAAAAA.... clunk....VAAAAWAAAAAAAAAAAAA.... woooooooooooshhhhhhhh
oh and I tend to agree... I do believe folks on the fence for a new "sports" car without having any brand loyalty will look at the new GT500 with smiles. Is it a "SUPERCAR"... to some... no. TO others... that is up to them. I see a lot of mature gentlemen in Corvettes that drive them like family cars. (My dad included in this statement. 63 yrs old and has a 7K mile 01 Vert! Move it grandpa... haahaa)
oh and I tend to agree... I do believe folks on the fence for a new "sports" car without having any brand loyalty will look at the new GT500 with smiles. Is it a "SUPERCAR"... to some... no. TO others... that is up to them. I see a lot of mature gentlemen in Corvettes that drive them like family cars. (My dad included in this statement. 63 yrs old and has a 7K mile 01 Vert! Move it grandpa... haahaa)
Last edited by Mr.Gearhead; 06-12-2005 at 01:40 PM.