[Z06] Friend is PO'd: previous owner took the car above 200MPH 3x
11-07-2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ShawnDFW
they also presented him with a print out of the black box data. the car had 3 trips to 200+ mph.
Can a dealer legally pull the info from the "black box" without your consent and deny warranty?
11-07-2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PcarRacr
Who care's. If it runs good and looks good that's all that matters. Also that's the risk you take when buying a used vehicle. The C6Z is what it is. I think anyone who doesn't drive the **** out of their Z should be slapped. If you don't experience what the car has to offer you are missing the whole reason all those engineers dedicated so much time making the vehicle the fortunate few of us get to own. If you want a crusier get a regular C6.
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Sounds good to me, thats what this car wants "TO BE DRIVEN". Nothing wrong with that, as long as it was SLAMED.
11-07-2006, 08:54 PM
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http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/...ers/index.html
I really think the dealer was making things up.
I really think the dealer was making things up.
11-07-2006, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmc5
http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/...ers/index.html
I really think the dealer was making things up.
I really think the dealer was making things up.
11-07-2006, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmc5
http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/...ers/index.html
I really think the dealer was making things up.
I really think the dealer was making things up.
I agree. In all of my use of the Tech 2 I have not seen any data recorded on top speed or number of times at that speed. I have only seen freeze frames of failure cores that record data including vehicle speed.
11-07-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Katech
I agree. In all of my use of the Tech 2 I have not seen any data recorded on top speed or number of times at that speed. I have only seen freeze frames of failure cores that record data including vehicle speed.
my thinking so far is that the extensive parts replacements for this warantee work got them to take a closer look at the box.
i am 99% sure my friend did not ask for this info but that they showed it to him
11-07-2006, 09:19 PM
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The top speed could have been done on a dyno.
Don't know how the new Z works but on our semi tractors at work the computer stores the top speed, avg speed, mpg, idle time, and lots more accessed by the software we got from Cummins.
Don't know how the new Z works but on our semi tractors at work the computer stores the top speed, avg speed, mpg, idle time, and lots more accessed by the software we got from Cummins.
11-07-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Vette
Maybe I need therapy. Do they have a class like "Auto Abuse," how to run the **** out of your car in 2 easy lessons.
11-07-2006, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Vette
I'm beginning to feel pretty out of synch because I don't run the **** out of my car.
I seldom go over 5,000 RPMs. I never stretch it out in first gear, sometimes in second and never in third or fourth.
I use the acceleration intermittently for the G-force buzz, but do not wring it out. Roll from 20 to 90 then back'er down.
Maybe I need therapy. Do they have a class like "Auto Abuse," how to run the **** out of your car in 2 easy lessons.
I seldom go over 5,000 RPMs. I never stretch it out in first gear, sometimes in second and never in third or fourth.
I use the acceleration intermittently for the G-force buzz, but do not wring it out. Roll from 20 to 90 then back'er down.
Maybe I need therapy. Do they have a class like "Auto Abuse," how to run the **** out of your car in 2 easy lessons.
Just because someone uses the car for its built intent doesn't mean it was abused.
11-07-2006, 09:51 PM
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Scene: At the mandatory DMV weekly black box check point
OK we just pulled the Data from your black box ...
seems like you have 82 speeding tickets this week ..
total $5675.00 in fines..Cash or Credit ?
George Orwell II- from the book - 2024
OK we just pulled the Data from your black box ...
seems like you have 82 speeding tickets this week ..
total $5675.00 in fines..Cash or Credit ?
George Orwell II- from the book - 2024
11-07-2006, 09:52 PM
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Cosmic, thats crazy. You've never ever ran the car to redline? To be honest, I'm not sure that kind of treatment is healthy long term. These motors need to run at least a little bit.
11-07-2006, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BLU-BY-U
Cosmic, thats crazy. You've never ever ran the car to redline? To be honest, I'm not sure that kind of treatment is healthy long term. These motors need to run at least a little bit.
11-07-2006, 10:07 PM
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I'll call the BS flag on this one:
"Can the EDR record where a vehicle was or how fast it was going at any given time?
GM EDRs do not continuously record vehicle speed data that is capable of being accessed. Only in the event of a crash will such data be recorded. The EDR typically does not record location or other outside conditions. "
Unless this vehicle crashed in the moments prior to the inspection, there is only a small amount of data available, showing only the previous few seconds of time.
"Can the EDR record where a vehicle was or how fast it was going at any given time?
GM EDRs do not continuously record vehicle speed data that is capable of being accessed. Only in the event of a crash will such data be recorded. The EDR typically does not record location or other outside conditions. "
Unless this vehicle crashed in the moments prior to the inspection, there is only a small amount of data available, showing only the previous few seconds of time.
11-07-2006, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette
I'll call the BS flag on this one:
"Can the EDR record where a vehicle was or how fast it was going at any given time?
GM EDRs do not continuously record vehicle speed data that is capable of being accessed. Only in the event of a crash will such data be recorded. The EDR typically does not record location or other outside conditions. "
Unless this vehicle crashed in the moments prior to the inspection, there is only a small amount of data available, showing only the previous few seconds of time.
"Can the EDR record where a vehicle was or how fast it was going at any given time?
GM EDRs do not continuously record vehicle speed data that is capable of being accessed. Only in the event of a crash will such data be recorded. The EDR typically does not record location or other outside conditions. "
Unless this vehicle crashed in the moments prior to the inspection, there is only a small amount of data available, showing only the previous few seconds of time.
11-07-2006, 11:11 PM
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Cosmic you're not alone. By the way I've been meaning to tell you that your silver looks absolutely awesome with chrome wheels, is the only color I like with chrome. I take extremely good care of all my cars, specifically one worth this kind of money.....I firmly believe in "laize faire", I say to anyone, it's your car, treat it as you please. That's why they make chocolate and vanilla, we're all a little different.
11-07-2006, 11:14 PM
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I bet it also showed the number of times he drove though McDonalds, average owner swear words per mile of traffic and the location of Voyager in light years from the Onstar satellite 
11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MAJ Z06
I be more concerned with one bad drag racing launch then numerous top speed runs. I say, big deal.
top speed is just running through the gears, drag racing is brutal. 
11-07-2006, 11:29 PM
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i didnt read through all the posts, but if the dealer fixed the stuff except maybe the clutch under warranty, who cares?
so the car was driven. its a USED car.
i bought a used z. wouldnt bother me if the car was driven hard. i drive it hard. it runs great. what else do ya need to know?
id be impressed if my car was a 200mph car
so the car was driven. its a USED car.
i bought a used z. wouldnt bother me if the car was driven hard. i drive it hard. it runs great. what else do ya need to know?
id be impressed if my car was a 200mph car
11-07-2006, 11:36 PM
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Wahhhhhh
Typical buyers remorse. If GM does not want a car to travel at 200mph, then do not announce a top speed of 198mph. If your friend does not want a USED car to have travelled at 200 mph, then buy new. Otherwise, How many people are going to buy a C6 Z06 with a 176bhp engine. The only people I know are those who think that a Lamborghini "replicar" is just as good as a "real" lamborghini. Have your friend trade it in on a 1986 Fiero "Ferrari", then he'll be happy that no one travelled at 200mph in his car!