04_Z06_CE

Killer Ryd,

Sounds like you need to get one,,,,,

KILR-RYD

there is nothing wrong in appreciating whats out there, but you are right..i want one right now!!! :o wouldnt lie.

Tavarez

He likes the ride that's fine. I just don't see how he thinks a 480hp GTR is going to keep up with a ZR1 on an nring straight, they're almost identical down that straight. The only time that 7:29 GTR loses is on the turns on the nring. Yet we're supposed to believe all these other Nissan supplied cars are not tampered with, when it's so blatantly obvious the Nissan ring times are a complete fraud. That car had 600+hp EASILY, EASILY. There's almost no doubt that 693hp is extremely close to right..

KILR-RYD

damn if nissan gives a 693hp 70k car, i am even more happy..thats a big achievement in itself.

Edmunds used a customer car, british car mag used a customer car to beat out the GT3 on the circuit what else will you need

Tavarez

yeah it's just too bad it won't come 693 hp in stock trim, or without anything else that was added. But that'd be amazing you're right, if we get that exact car it will be incredible for 70k.

could you link the british car mag article, i'd like to read it if you don't mind.

What would I want to see? Well perhaps actual STREET, customer cars being used. Not cars handed to car reporters by nissan, as in the edmund test. Not cars shipped from nissan in japan to top gear, but ACTUAL customer cars, not cars dressed up to be customer cars.

RedBeauty84ZX

um...Top Gear and virtually all the magazines get cars from manufacturers...they rarely if ever use personally owned cars. So this is nothing new...just something people like to exploit about the GTR.
Heres a personally owned GTR running 11.6:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s-9v8Zl1FMo

Expect to see faster times once more and more owners take them to the track...

Tavarez

Nobody said they didn't, I know they do. But knowing Nissan's tactics as evidenced on the nring..well?.

Twil1ght

For the GTR lovers to find a GTR forum and leave those of us who don't give a rat's *** if it goes 2000 MPH around a hairpin the hell alone.

RedBeauty84ZX

LOL...you still believe Nissan used a ringer for the Nur.

Tavarez

LOLALAWL, yes they did..

2SINISTER

I put absolutely no stock in what Top Gear says about a car. They habitually bash anything that comes out of the U.S.A. As for Clarkson, he can't even tell the difference between a Mustang GT and a regular Mustang: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etvaHh244Ok

KILR-RYD

this is talk of the big boys, mustangs are best left where they belong, in the ....(wouldnt go there)

KILR-RYD

Oh really, if we(i dont know you about you, but i am) car enthusiasts do not compare cars of similar caliber on forums then where do you expect this to happen. Its direct competition in performance, this is ought to happen.

I was not all in for GT-R to begin with, but it has proven itself and upped the bar to whole new level, nothing wrong with that, hopefully GM will fight back with the C7(better quality exterior and interior and newer technology)

2SINISTER

There are more than a few Mustangs that would give your Z a run for it's money, or just flat out beat it. However, that was not my point. I am simply stating that the show is entertainment, that is all.

Twil1ght

First off, there's nothing to compare - merely an argument waiting to happen. So to that end: Secondly, the cars are not of similar caliber. Thirdly, neither manufacturer gives a damn what you say about either of them - if they did, they'd have called for your opinion prior to going to production. Fourth, and finally, you don't even have a Z06 or a GTR so you cannot possible rate either one.

adamante82

I don't mind reading what people say about the GTR. If I didn't want to, I'd click on the other posts and NOT the GTR posts.

In any case, I love my Z. And in time, all these rumors will be put to rest.

Kinda like the young bull old bull joke. I'm walking down the hill.

SABER Racing

AAAAMEN Brother!!!! PlEEEEASE get them to shut the FU@$ up already!!

04_Z06_CE

Dude,,,,In every thread you talk about the GTR..
Yes its cool car , we got over it and one day you will too..
Ill think of you when I start to pull on the GTR and waive buy to him..
BTW why do you have that FUGLY sounding crap next to your vette in that pic?

obzidian

No, what IS B.S. is that, unofortunately, ppl like you are still in denial. If it can beat a stock z06, fine... i'll admit and be ok since my z06 is still a fantastic car. But, you cannot, CANNOT honestly believe that the magical GTR is as fast, for example, as a ZR1 in a straight in stock trim. A stock z06 will rap a stock 480hp GTR in a straight... and keep the lead in the corners, even with silly runflats.

So, again, do you really believe that? Because if you do, than your ALSO saying a stock 480hp GTR did the rin in 7:29, let alone the initial lie of 7:38.

Think about it... who is really full of it?

Also, you do know that corvettes can actually handle, right?


So, nissan did use a "ringer" in the Nring tests, they did and apparently still do... send out "ringer" cars to be tested, and for what? Well, they are an auto manufactuer trying to sell a car they are probably hurting because of all the steps they have enployed to produce it. Nissan has gone out of its way to prove how overbuilt this car over anything else on the market. Again, why... to sell it.

Think about this way... you playstation GTR fanboys are like Obama supporters. You have no reason why you are voting for him, you cant even say when was the last time he actually told the truth since he chances his views every other day.. yet, he is still your man and you believe in him cause is will bring change and because you haven't educated yourself in seeing the truth in it all.

Well, you might as well tatoo GTR-RULES on your sleeve, right next to OBAMA 08' "sociali...uh, CHANGE!!"

jmc5

Actually, this is exactly wrong.

What is amazing is what the GT-R is capable of in completely inexperienced hands.

I personally am still waiting to see how much of a finger Nissan put on the testing scales, but...

I do expect the GT-R to come in faster than it should be.

Nissan has done "drive-by-wire" with the GT-R. Less skill, not more, is needed to use it. AWD without computer assist is no magical bullet.

Think of it as the Corvette's "track mode", but many many times improved.

Personally, thats not what I'm looking for in a car. But if you want to ride along as the computers drive your car for you, it will probably be quite fast.