[ZR1] Will there be a C7 ZR1 or end of era?
07-16-2011, 05:34 PM
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I strongly believe that Corvette Team ultimate goal is to someday be able to produce a Supercar with a Carbon Fiber tub.
Probably it won't happen in the C7 generation, but down the road with the technology improvement to make a CF tub in just 4 hours down from 3,000 hours in the early 90's like Mclaren did with the MP4 and costs coming down also i think there is a good chance we will see one in the future.
Probably it won't happen in the C7 generation, but down the road with the technology improvement to make a CF tub in just 4 hours down from 3,000 hours in the early 90's like Mclaren did with the MP4 and costs coming down also i think there is a good chance we will see one in the future.
07-16-2011, 06:37 PM
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07-16-2011, 10:04 PM
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A few of you guys are delusional if you think the C7 won't outperform the C6. The top model of the C7 will outperform the top model of the C6 (i.e. ZR1). I plan to keep my C6 ZR1 as I think it's an amazing machine, but I hope to also get a dual-clutch track monster C7 ZR1 when it's available.
07-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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The C6 ZR1 is an incredible machine and i think it has been good for the Vette Team, they have transfered technology and light weight materials from the ZR1 to the Z06 to make it a better car..
The ZR1 from a roll can take almost any stock car outhere.
When i saw a ZR1 from a roll beating by about one car lenght a Carrera GT i was in awe. So in acceleration this car basically can run with anybody.
And at the circuit to have put a lap time at the Ring in 7:19 vs Carrera GT 7:28 that is simply remarkable..
So the C6 platform right know is one of the best in the world and if GM does a C7 ZR1 with less weight, more feedback, a stiffer chassis etc. is going to be scary how good this car can be..
The ZR1 from a roll can take almost any stock car outhere.
When i saw a ZR1 from a roll beating by about one car lenght a Carrera GT i was in awe. So in acceleration this car basically can run with anybody.
And at the circuit to have put a lap time at the Ring in 7:19 vs Carrera GT 7:28 that is simply remarkable..
So the C6 platform right know is one of the best in the world and if GM does a C7 ZR1 with less weight, more feedback, a stiffer chassis etc. is going to be scary how good this car can be..
07-17-2011, 01:06 PM
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Le Mans Master
A few of you guys are delusional if you think the C7 won't outperform the C6. The top model of the C7 will outperform the top model of the C6 (i.e. ZR1). I plan to keep my C6 ZR1 as I think it's an amazing machine, but I hope to also get a dual-clutch track monster C7 ZR1 when it's available.
Dual-clutch is the wave of the future.
07-17-2011, 01:45 PM
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After all the years it took me to get it, I won't! That's the car I wanted in high school, but couldn't even come close to affording it, but I never forgot and when I could finally manage it, it has become my favorite car by a long way. It may not be able to compete on the 'Ring, but the straight line power and wow factor on cruises and shows is great. I'm hoping my newly ordered ZR1 will change my mind, maybe...
07-17-2011, 04:57 PM
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I really don't care, I like my current ZR1 and will not get rid of it. If there is another ZR1 from the C7 and it is a badass, then I will just buy 1 of them to go next to the C6. Who cares what happens, everybody speculating on the future. The future is made for improvements in just about everything. If everyone is worried about the next model, maybe you shouldn't have bought the one you have now if you are so afraid of what happens down the road. Enjoy what you have, I know I do
07-19-2011, 02:56 AM
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Burning Brakes
I think GM would like to get away from expensive composite panels and have a smaller, lighter package with dct and a better interior. The path to all that could be an all aluminum body with narrower wheels for reduced weight and width to offset gain from dct and premium interior. I think they will fail to outperform the c6 zr1 because it is already such a good performer. I also think it will not end up being lighter.
08-17-2014, 02:37 PM
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yes, and this is likely it
08-19-2014, 07:00 AM
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Yeah, but then we'd miss out on gems like this:
This whole thread has a whole bunch of guys talking about how GM will never build a car like the C6ZR1 again, and here GM not only does it but badges it a Z06
If the C6 ZR1 made Chevrolet money, there will be a faster C7 ZR1. And I think the ZR1 has been profitable for Chevrolet/GM.
It will not be a 6.2 supercharged V8, but I could easily see a 3100lb, 680hp supercharged direct injected 5.5L V8 that revs out to 7000-7500rpm with a dual-clutch transmission (and a six-speed manual option). Yum.
It will not be a 6.2 supercharged V8, but I could easily see a 3100lb, 680hp supercharged direct injected 5.5L V8 that revs out to 7000-7500rpm with a dual-clutch transmission (and a six-speed manual option). Yum.
This whole thread has a whole bunch of guys talking about how GM will never build a car like the C6ZR1 again, and here GM not only does it but badges it a Z06
08-19-2014, 01:40 PM
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So, my statements are still valid at this juncture especially in light of the fact 650 horsepower in a 3500+car won't outrun a 638hp car in a 3350 car all other things equal. Of course, gearing, # of gears, and powerband may still get the C7 Z06 an edge straight line over the C6 ZR1, it won't be much.
Finally, I have a deposit on a C7 Z06 already and I plan to keep my C6 ZR1. Keep those performance models coming GM and I'll keep buying.
P.S. Please hurry up with the ATS-V and CTS-V next gen cars as my '12 CTS-V lease is up in less than 9 months.
08-20-2014, 05:44 AM
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What a tool. The C7 ZR1 WON'T be a 6.2 supercharged. Just because GM made a cheaper LT4 6.2 supercharged versions making 12hp more than the LS9 and puts it in a car roughly 200 lbs HEAVIER does not a C6 ZR1 make.
So, my statements are still valid at this juncture especially in light of the fact 650 horsepower in a 3500+car won't outrun a 638hp car in a 3350 car all other things equal. Of course, gearing, # of gears, and powerband may still get the C7 Z06 an edge straight line over the C6 ZR1, it won't be much.
Finally, I have a deposit on a C7 Z06 already and I plan to keep my C6 ZR1. Keep those performance models coming GM and I'll keep buying.
P.S. Please hurry up with the ATS-V and CTS-V next gen cars as my '12 CTS-V lease is up in less than 9 months.
So, my statements are still valid at this juncture especially in light of the fact 650 horsepower in a 3500+car won't outrun a 638hp car in a 3350 car all other things equal. Of course, gearing, # of gears, and powerband may still get the C7 Z06 an edge straight line over the C6 ZR1, it won't be much.
Finally, I have a deposit on a C7 Z06 already and I plan to keep my C6 ZR1. Keep those performance models coming GM and I'll keep buying.
P.S. Please hurry up with the ATS-V and CTS-V next gen cars as my '12 CTS-V lease is up in less than 9 months.
We can go back a couple years and find my posts about how the base C7 will be under 3100 pounds due to the aluminum frame... we all know how that went
The price difference between the C6 ZR1 and the C7 Z06 can be attributed to the aluminum frame and other components being mass-produced now... nothing on the Z06 is less exotic than the ZR1
The point remains, many of the people in this thread were saying that nothing like the ZR1 would be built again; that's ironic, since GM is building something else JUST like the ZR1. Sorry if that offends you or you can't see the humor.
08-20-2014, 07:05 AM
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Just to stir the pot a bit more...
When I went on the VIP factory & museum tour about a month ago, our tour guide who was pretty sharp mentioned something about a C7 ZR1 in the future. I said that popular opinion was that the new Z06 was supposed to be the top of the line but he brought up the new 707 hp dodge and GM's response to that may be a ZR1.....time will tell.
When I went on the VIP factory & museum tour about a month ago, our tour guide who was pretty sharp mentioned something about a C7 ZR1 in the future. I said that popular opinion was that the new Z06 was supposed to be the top of the line but he brought up the new 707 hp dodge and GM's response to that may be a ZR1.....time will tell.
08-20-2014, 12:01 PM
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Le Mans Master
Easy on the butthurt, pal; I was merely pointing out the irony
We can go back a couple years and find my posts about how the base C7 will be under 3100 pounds due to the aluminum frame... we all know how that went
The price difference between the C6 ZR1 and the C7 Z06 can be attributed to the aluminum frame and other components being mass-produced now... nothing on the Z06 is less exotic than the ZR1
The point remains, many of the people in this thread were saying that nothing like the ZR1 would be built again; that's ironic, since GM is building something else JUST like the ZR1. Sorry if that offends you or you can't see the humor.
We can go back a couple years and find my posts about how the base C7 will be under 3100 pounds due to the aluminum frame... we all know how that went
The price difference between the C6 ZR1 and the C7 Z06 can be attributed to the aluminum frame and other components being mass-produced now... nothing on the Z06 is less exotic than the ZR1
The point remains, many of the people in this thread were saying that nothing like the ZR1 would be built again; that's ironic, since GM is building something else JUST like the ZR1. Sorry if that offends you or you can't see the humor.
It's stupid to think overall performance won't keep improving with each successive generation. It's also naive at best, and stupid and ignorant at worst to not think there won't be a C7 ZR1.
I'm pretty sure GM wanted originally to keep the Z06 NA, but decided at their price point and desired power levels that going with a nice FI engine would be a better and cheaper route to get 600+hp, hence the C7 Z06.
So, my plan is to keeping tracking my C6 ZR1 and get a C7 Z06 to goof around with for a few years and then I'll trade it on a C7 ZR1 a year or two after it comes out.
Good time to be a GM performance fan nowadays.
