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Old 02-18-2018, 11:55 PM
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Feeling defeated yet again with this stupid car. I swear I should have just bought a super low mileage ZR1. I decided to get new rims. The first shop that mounted my rear rims put deep gouge marks all along the inner rim. That was a couple days ago. I used touch up paint to fix but not happy. Those were 345 NT05R. Now today I tried to have my front rims mounted at an other shop. 285/30/19’s they could not get them mounted. In the process they chipped the powdercoat on from lip and scratched both the rims on inner wheel. Is all this normal? Now I have to send the rims out to get fixed. So irritated. Not sure if I should just leave backs alone or fix also. I know it going to cost me a lot.










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Makes no sense to hate your car due to the fact you used brain deficient tire installers.
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Makes no sense to hate your car due to the fact you used brain deficient tire installers.
I just seem to keep having issues with this car. Just frustrated and mad I didnít get a nicer car for what Iíve spent on this thing.
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Uhhhh what.....
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I can share that I drive 40 miles one-way in Atlanta traffic to pay a Porsche specialty shop 50 bucks per wheel just to mount and balance. Whatever magic sauce they have, it works - the set are completed with no extra time, drama or scratches of any kind.

Prior to accepting this reality, I tried Discount Tire (I still have them do all my daily driver wheel and tire work); after they spent over 3 hours trying to get the top beads to seat on the Cup2's, they eneded up refunding my money and (on their dime BTW) pay 800 dollars to re-powder coat the rims.

So no, not exactly a unique experience. Find a better shop (if you can) and try to get the other shop to compensate you.

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Makes no sense to hate your car due to the fact you used brain deficient tire installers.
I agree....you need to hold the tire shop accountable. You just brought them brand new rims and what they did was/is unacceptable.

Go in and speak with the manager or the owner and show him what his installers did to your brand new rims. They need to reimburse you for replacement or powder coating etc....whatever it takes.

See if they have good rating on Yelp etc....a scathing review is (occasionally) an effective bargaining chip if things get to that point.

Welcome to modding cars.....where things out of our control can and do get messed up sometimes....one of the reasons I try to do as much as I can myself....not so easy when it comes to mounting tires however.

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Real sorry to see that Jay. I feel for you and am sorry it happened. The good news is that it can be fixed.

Few things:

1) Find a Hunter Revolution machine. This machine can mount your tires on those wheels with no issues or drama or damage. Start calling dealerships in town and ask. Then start calling the places in town that service high end exotics or even places that services trucks. Someone in town will have one. That's where you go.

2) Prior to leaving your wheels, speak directly to the service manager. Show him that your wheels are pristine and take pictures in front of him. Ask him if he is comfortable mounting tires to these wheels. Ask him what their policy is if they damage him. If he agrees to mount them then you instruct him clearly to STOP mounting if there is any chance of damage, as you will hold him responsible.

3) Try to leave the tires in the sun prior to mounting them. If there is some heat in them they become more pliable and easier to mount.

Good luck and sorry again this happened to you.
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Thanks for the replies. The first shop that mounted my rear tires was wheel works. The manager offered to send them to wheel works a wheel specialist to get fixed. I believe they just use touch up paint though. Iím not sure how to go about getting them to pay for Re powder coating. The rear rims has deep holes from the machine so they need to be stripped and filled with JB weld probably. I donít even know if this will cause weak spot in the rim though. Also this tire is mounted and on car. I used touch up paint on those holes and no one can see. I donít know if i should just except defeat on the rear rims. The other problem is if I powder coat the fronts only they might not match.

The second shop I need to call the manager today and try and figure it out. I have a hard time believing that Iíll get either shop to do anything and I will have to come out of pocket to fix them. Especially since all four need to be fixed by two shops.

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Thanks for the replies. The first shop that mounted my rear tires was wheel works. The manager offered to send them to wheel works a wheel specialist to get fixed. I believe they just use touch up paint though. Iím not sure how to go about getting them to pay for Re powder coating. The rear rims has deep holes from the machine so they need to be stripped and filled with JB weld probably. I donít even know if this will cause weak spot in the rim though. Also this tire is mounted and on car. I used touch up paint on those holes and no one can see. I donít know if i should just except defeat on the rear rims. The other problem is if I powder coat the fronts only they might not match.

The second shop I need to call the manager today and try and figure it out. I have a hard time believing that Iíll get either shop to do anything and I will have to come out of pocket to fix them. Especially since all four need to be fixed by two shops.
The unfortunate thing is a lot of shops have signs posted they are not responsible for wheel damage. If thatís the case here itís going to be difficult to force them to make repairs.
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This is why you ask around with **** like this. I waited 10 weeks for my forged wheels and had thousands invested in them. Im not bringing them to the same town fair tire that mounts 17" camry steel wheels all day. You get what you pay for, dont cheap out this far down. I pad $50 per wheel for mount and balance but they came out perfect
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2) Prior to leaving your wheels, speak directly to the service manager. Show him that your wheels are pristine and take pictures in front of him. Ask him if he is comfortable mounting tires to these wheels. Ask him what their policy is if they damage him. If he agrees to mount them then you instruct him clearly to STOP mounting if there is any chance of damage, as you will hold him responsible.

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I've had this conversation with a few shops that then turned down the work saying they weren't confident they could do it w/o causing damage. I give them props for knowing their limitations and I would still keep them in mind for work on my more mainstream cars.

To help find a shop, ask around. If you are a member of a club, check with others or look who sponsors them. Look for a local SCCA forum on the 'net. Try posting in the regional sections here on CF for recommendations.


As others have said, take it easy on hating the car just because a shop was careless. This is (unfortunately) a normal occurrence when dealing with cars that are different than the average econobox or pickup truck. It's also why so many folks are very loyal to particular shops when they find a good one. I've done 100mi+ trips for tires and alignment from a particular shop just because I knew they could do it w/o messing up.
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uhhhh what
I don't get how the car is at fault for what the tire shop did....

Maybe light up a fat one and relax?
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I don't get how the car is at fault for what the tire shop did....

Maybe light up a fat one and relax?
is it the cars fault no. I just keep running into issues related to the car. Just lots of extra money spent on stupid **** that needs fixing. I have way to much money in the car. I want to dump it at this point and get a nice car. Realistically itís my fault for not finding a better car.

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Feeling defeated yet again with this stupid car. I swear I should have just bought a super low mileage ZR1. I decided to get new rims. The first shop that mounted my rear rims put deep gouge marks all along the inner rim. That was a couple days ago. I used touch up paint to fix but not happy. Those were 345 NT05R. Now today I tried to have my front rims mounted at an other shop. 285/30/19ís they could not get them mounted. In the process they chipped the powdercoat on from lip and scratched both the rims on inner wheel. Is all this normal? Now I have to send the rims out to get fixed. So irritated. Not sure if I should just leave backs alone or fix also. I know it going to cost me a lot.









You dont hate the car....you hate the situation.....paying for joy and getting grief....I get it

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First, this has nothing to do with the car. If you bought that ZR1, there's no promise that you wouldn't have had issues with that either. Cars are loaded with mechanical dependencies, and they can fail at any time, on any car.

Second, the tire shop is at fault, period. Don't let them tell you otherwise. They need to own up to it and make it right. You shouldn't pay anything to have your wheels in the condition they were in when you brought them to them. If they can't do the job right, it was on them to decline doing the work.
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First, this has nothing to do with the car. If you bought that ZR1, there's no promise that you wouldn't have had issues with that either. Cars are loaded with mechanical dependencies, and they can fail at any time, on any car.

Second, the tire shop is at fault, period. Don't let them tell you otherwise. They need to own up to it and make it right. You shouldn't pay anything to have your wheels in the condition they were in when you brought them to them. If they can't do the job right, it was on them to decline doing the work.
the thing is I bought the car for 36k year ago and now have over 60k in the car. And it has 40k miles on it. I should have used that money towards a nice ZR1 thatís all. Iím frustrated
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Real sorry to see that Jay. I feel for you and am sorry it happened. The good news is that it can be fixed.

Few things:

1) Find a Hunter Revolution machine. This machine can mount your tires on those wheels with no issues or drama or damage. Start calling dealerships in town and ask. Then start calling the places in town that service high end exotics or even places that services trucks. Someone in town will have one. That's where you go.

2) Prior to leaving your wheels, speak directly to the service manager. Show him that your wheels are pristine and take pictures in front of him. Ask him if he is comfortable mounting tires to these wheels. Ask him what their policy is if they damage him. If he agrees to mount them then you instruct him clearly to STOP mounting if there is any chance of damage, as you will hold him responsible.

3) Try to leave the tires in the sun prior to mounting them. If there is some heat in them they become more pliable and easier to mount.

Good luck and sorry again this happened to you.
Excellent advice. The shop I go to uses a "touchless" machine, not sure which one though.
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19-20" wheels with low profile tires are just not something you should take to the average wheel works. You wife Tahoe on 18's with a 32" tire? Fine but not a Z06.
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