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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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I installed cyberdyne fuel pressure and boost gauges tonight. The wires from the boost sending unit were not that long to allow the sending unit to be installed under the hood, so I moved it into the car so the wires would reach up into the a pillar. The gauge is not reading accurately. It says I have 17psi at idle and actually goes down as I rev the motor. Is it possible to have locate the sensor too far away from the vacuum line at the brake booster? Would this cause my problem?
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what vacuum source are you currently using? I recomend extending the wires on the sending unit
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I installed cyberdyne fuel pressure and boost gauges tonight. The wires from the boost sending unit were not that long to allow the sending unit to be installed under the hood, so I moved it into the car so the wires would reach up into the a pillar. The gauge is not reading accurately. It says I have 17psi at idle and actually goes down as I rev the motor. Is it possible to have locate the sensor too far away from the vacuum line at the brake booster? Would this cause my problem?
No. You hooked it up incorrectly. I bet you're looking at pre-throttle body pressure.
Also if you have 17PSI at idle before your throttle body your BOV is sticking...


Remember analog gauges run the vac/boost line into the car and right up to the gauge itself. Having a long run like that introduces a slight delay on the readings, but it does not account for massive errors like that.

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Ive installed a couple sets of those gauges and they are hit and miss on reading correctly.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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My autometer boost gauge is toast, reads anything from 8 to 28. maybe I need to pick another brand if this is common for the autometer.
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No. You hooked it up incorrectly. I bet you're looking at pre-throttle body pressure.
Also if you have 17PSI at idle before your throttle body your BOV is sticking...


Remember analog gauges run the vac/boost line into the car and right up to the gauge itself. Having a long run like that introduces a slight delay on the readings, but it does not account for massive errors like that.
I'm sure I don't have 17PSI, the car on a dyno maxed out at 7. There is definitely something wrong with the gauge. The tee for the boost sending unit is right at the brake booster. Isn't that a good spot to measure boost? It's not an analog gauge either. There is a pressure transducer that changes the vacuum/boost pressure signal into an electrical signal.
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are you sure it's not negative 17?
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are you sure it's not negative 17?
I don't think so because the gauge has a vac / boost light for negative and positive pressure.
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what does it say with the car off?

and if it were saying -17 it would make sense that it go closer to 0 when you give it some gas.. that's what it should do, obviously
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I could not get a good reading off he brake booster line, I hooked in to the inlet duct from my innercooler to throttle body works good.
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If I remember right (could be way off here) but with those when it changes from vaccum to boost the number get brighter and there isnt a negative symbol, but like I said I could be thinking of a different gauge.
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Is there a limit to the length of tubing you can run from the boost source (brake booster, intercooler etc...) and the pressure transducer? I ran it all the way to the passenger side of the car so I wouldn't have to drill a hole in the firewall. I wouldn't think there would be a problem with the length though. pressure is pressure right?
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perhaps you should answer my question. if it's not reading correctly when the engine isn't even running then clearly there is a problem that isn't related to how this thing is connected.
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Originally Posted by Robls6
Is there a limit to the length of tubing you can run from the boost source (brake booster, intercooler etc...) and the pressure transducer? I ran it all the way to the passenger side of the car so I wouldn't have to drill a hole in the firewall. I wouldn't think there would be a problem with the length though. pressure is pressure right?
pressure is pressure, the length would only affect the reaction of the gauge. if i were you i would disconnect the gauge and connect it directly under the hood to see if it works under ideal conditions

maybe your sending unit wires are backwards?
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
perhaps you should answer my question. if it's not reading correctly when the engine isn't even running then clearly there is a problem that isn't related to how this thing is connected.
It reads 00 when the ignition is on but not running.
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Originally Posted by SinisterC6
pressure is pressure, the length would only affect the reaction of the gauge. if i were you i would disconnect the gauge and connect it directly under the hood to see if it works under ideal conditions

maybe your sending unit wires are backwards?
Sending unit wires are ok. I checked that. I thought it may be a ground problem but I tried running a ground from the motor right to the gauge with the same problem. I am stumped.
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what happens if you connect the gauge under the hood with minimal vacuum line and wires from the sending unit?
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Just want to get the fact straight. Your Boost/Vacuum gauge reads 17 at idle, does it go down if you give it some gas? If it does then you are reading vacuum and not boost. cyberdyne vacuum does not have a - sign, it just display the number.

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Just want to get the fact straight. Your Boost/Vacuum gauge reads 17 at idle, does it go down if you give it some gas? If it does then you are reading vacuum and not boost. cyberdyne vacuum does not have a - sign, it just display the number.
what happens if you go wot to redline?
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what happens if you go wot to redline?
Didn't try that. It does read 17 at idle and go down when I give it gas. Is it really possible to have 17 inches of vacuum at idle though? That just seemed a little off to me. I assume I probably wont see mush boost without a load on the engine. Maybe I'll button it up and take it for a little road test and see what it reads.
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