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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
...the exact same setup, also utilizing a Magnuson TVS2300 kit. Theirs goes for $11K, also with a warranty. Here is the link:
Apples to oranges...

A 3/36 component warranty is nowhere close to the same as the Callaway 3/36 Powertrain Warranty. There are also several components also missing from the "list" I read.

Please do not make comparisons which are not based on facts. Thank you
Old Sep 24, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Personally I think there are some pretty impressive tuners/installers with Callaway and Katech being at the front of the line with a few others right behind. Lingenfelter is not one of those in my opinion based on warranty nightmares I've heard about.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
I dont think its a stretch at all, I have seen many cars in the upper 600rwhp range. I wont name tuners but im sure everyone knows who they are. And the Callaway numbers are rated at the crank, not the wheels. As far as the OEM driveability and how long the engine will stay together from other tuners is debateable but that was the whole point of the post. Much lower numbers = a much better OEM driving experience.
I'm not honkin for Callaway, but there's absolutely no way their tune is 100 hp less than a "supertuner" would get. No way. Just ain't happnin...
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
Nope. $21,000 for a Magnacharger blower kit bolted on to a bone stock engine and drivetrain. Here's the spec sheet:

http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway...ts/SC606V2.pdf

Not a lot of bang for your buck, but they do give you a warranty...
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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I made 597RWHP/517RWTQ with a bolt-on A&A kit tuned for pump gas with headers and nothing else on a bone stock LS2. It lasted 30K miles. It cost me $5400 and I did the install myself, for free.

So your non emissions legal car that doesn't have a warranty made 32rwhp more, less torque than the Callaway 606 car and it didnt' last 30k miles.

Ok....really hammered the point home there.

Wanna rehash the rebuild saga? You make it sound so easy in your posts, but the huge shortblock thread says otherwise. Seems easier to talk than do. It would have been real easy to go in that thread and kick you while you were down, especially after all your smack talk. Blasting Callaway seemed to be off your plate for a while, but now that youre back on the road, I guess its a different story.

Where does the extra money go? If you haven't figured it out yet, you're unable....

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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
So your non emissions legal car that doesn't have a warranty made 32rwhp more, less torque than the Callaway 606 car and it didnt' last 30k miles.

Ok....really hammered the point home there.

Wanna rehash the rebuild saga? You make it sound so easy in your posts, but the huge shortblock thread says otherwise. Seems easier to talk than do. It would have been real easy to go in that thread and kick you while you were down, especially after all your smack talk. Blasting Callaway seemed to be off your plate for a while, but now that youre back on the road, I guess its a different story.

Where does the extra money go? If you haven't figured it out yet, you're unable....
Give me your callaway car and a race track and I will show you why when GM built the ZR-1 they didn't slap a TVS 2300 on top of the LS3 and called it good I give it maybe 10 pulls, 1st through 5th, till it goes, and that is being optimistic because mine lasted 7.
Callaway cars might last longer because they make less power, but you drive anything hard enough and it will break; a stock car can break, a modded one will break sooner, mine lasted 30K miles, your Callaway car would pop too given the kind of abuse I put mine through...
I'm not blasting anyone. In fact you touched on my point but didn't quite capture it. My point is the following: Its a modded car. You're giving up a couple of things when you mod, reliability is one of them. If I'm compromising for power, I want a lot of it for my money. $21K for 200 more horses doesn't cut it for me. That's all.

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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
Give me your callaway car and a race track and I will show you why when GM built the ZR-1 they didn't slap a TVS 2300 on top of the LS3 and called it good I give it maybe 10 pulls, 1st through 5th, till it goes, and that is being optimistic because mine lasted 7.
Callaway cars might last longer because they make less power, but you drive anything hard enough and it will break; a stock car can break, a modded one will break sooner, mine lasted 30K miles, your Callaway car would pop too given the kind of abuse I put mine through...
I'm not blasting anyone. In fact you touched on my point but didn't quite capture it. My point is the following: Its a modded car. You're giving up a couple of things when you mod, reliability is one of them. If I'm compromising for power, I want a lot of it for my money. $21K for 200 more horses doesn't cut it for me. That's all.

Callaway's R&D cars see more track time than you have time to put in. If youre blowing motors that fast, its driver error.

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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Callaway's R&D cars see more track time than you have time to put in. If youre blowing motors that fast, its driver error.

So 32rwhp = 200 horses? I thought you were an engineer...
Sorry but 32RWHP would mean a callaway car makes 565RWHP. That is not the case.
Look, you love Callaway, we get it. Man, if I spent 21,000 dollars for something I guess I'd blindly love it too. Oh, wait, nah I spent less than that on my engine and I still see it for what it is: its a hopped up base C6 with a blower, just like your Callaway car. Except it is much, much, MUCH faster. As in, I make at the wheels, more than 100horses over what you have at the crank. And it is probably more reliable too since it is not a bone stock LS motor with cast pistons; it has forged internals. Nothing more nothing less. And I still think its unimpressive. But hey, you're happy with your investment; people are happy driving stock cars too... Its not for me, but but I'll respect it. You have a good weekend now, I'm going to the bar
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
Sorry but 32RWHP would mean a callaway car makes 565RWHP. That is not the case.
Look, you love Callaway, we get it. Man, if I spent 21,000 dollars for something I guess I'd blindly love it too. Oh, wait, nah I spent less than that on my engine and I still see it for what it is: its a hopped up base C6 with a blower, just like your Callaway car. Except it is much, much, MUCH faster. As in, I make at the wheels, more than 100horses over what you have at the crank. And it is probably more reliable too since it is not a bone stock LS motor with cast pistons; it has forged internals. Nothing more nothing less. And I still think its unimpressive. But hey, you're happy with your investment; people are happy driving stock cars too... Its not for me, but but I'll respect it. You have a good weekend now, I'm going to the bar
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