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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Big
E85 is the way to go vs 100 or C16..... As far as the blend change you will see little difference between E70 and E85, this is from a year of experimentation. However you should not "skimp" on an E85 fuel system meant for an FI application, E85 and FI are a wonderful combo "if" setup correctly...
What's your setup and whp?
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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when the subsidies are gone on e85 you will be paying about as much as race fuel and find it harder to get... my .02
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by turbotuner20v
What's your setup and whp?
It's a forged LS2 with nice stuff, an F1R etc.... puts down around 1000rwhp. Jeremy knows what he is talking about, we use the same tuner and his car is well done. I'm sure he will chime in with more specifics about his combo.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by turbotuner20v
on e85? I'd have to imagine even a Z06 pump w/ a boost-a-pump will struggle to supply enough E85 for 650-700whp
No way in heck you will get enough E85 with Z pump and a BAP to support 650-700whp.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vertC6
I have spoken with Carlos (Quality Motorsports) and he is pretty much the athority on E85 tuning and he never said anything about the z pump being and issue. This was based on N/A, high CR, E85 cars running low to mid 600's rwhp.
I agree. Carlos says that your stock fuel pump on a N/A E85 car is more than enough.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vertC6
I just did the math and your paying nearly $5 per gallon. You could simply invest in a five gallon if torco for $150 and add as needed. You can buy a simple test kit and figure out how much octane you need. From what I have read it is only in the winter that you have to be concerned about e70.
Where are you finding a 5 gallon can of Torco for $150? I'm VERY interested
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Sucks no E- anything within 50 miles
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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E85 is really a nice fuel to use when you factor in it's less than half the cost of 100 octane at the pump. ($3.15 verses $7.25 at the pump)

Some benefits.....ethanol runs much cleaner to the point it leaves no carbon residue even on the tailpipes, cooler in day to day driving in as much that I saw a 5-10 degree reduction in coolant temps, and amazingly intimidating. (Oh man you're running E85....I'm not racing you)

Things to note.....yes ethanol percentages do vary by station so a hygrometer is your friend verses the unreliable test kits for sale, bump pump prime time in your tune to help with the lazy starts (not really an issue but it always bugged me), and reduced range.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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as long as I order 4 at a time I pay no delivery. I run ms109 not E85 but you should try and get free freight most will throw it in. If not its at least free on the last 3 drums. Truck freight is prices by the foot and 1 drum on a pallet takes the same room as 4
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Oklahoma City will soon have it's first E98 pump
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Oklahoma City will soon have it's first E98 pump
Serious? I want one.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lane_change
Serious? I want one.
Yeppers. It's in the works right now. A buddy of mine owns a gas station that has E85, 93 and a few other things. We have been trying to talk him into doing the E98 because he blends his at the pump versus already having who knows what mix shipped to him. So he will just take the blender out of one of the E85 pumps and let it be. E98 which will read 100% and we are off to the races haha. Screw that 101,104 and C16 prices crap I am out on that!

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Tell your friend to build one in Houston....preferably in Katy, TX.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Taylor@DallasPerformance
No way in heck you will get enough E85 with Z pump and a BAP to support 650-700whp.
Well over 800 rwhp has been done on a stock z pump and BAP on a dry kit... NA your good to around 675 rwhp depending on torque on a stock pump..
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Originally Posted by busaetr
Well over 800 rwhp has been done on a stock z pump and BAP on a dry kit... NA your good to around 675 rwhp depending on torque on a stock pump..
It very well may do that but then the question is "how long will it last"... Ask me how I know... Mine did not last long at all which is why I threw away the pos bap and did it right which I should of done the first time.

Lol @ Lane Change E98 right next to the Omni Hotel wouldn't be a bad idea
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GAMEOVR
It very well may do that but then the question is "how long will it last"... Ask me how I know... Mine did not last long at all which is why I threw away the pos bap and did it right which I should of done the first time.

Lol @ Lane Change E98 right next to the Omni Hotel wouldn't be a bad idea
I agree 100%.. I'll never run a BAP, but to say they won't support 650-700 is silly..
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by busaetr
I agree 100%.. I'll never run a BAP, but to say they won't support 650-700 is silly..
On gas maybe but I highly doubt it on E85, like Taylor said. E85 takes about 30% more fuel system to make the same the power as gas.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt4110
On gas maybe but I highly doubt it on E85, like Taylor said. E85 takes about 30% more fuel system to make the same the power as gas.
On E85!! I'd never try it, but as I stated it's been done.. I'm pushing the limits in a NA E85 setup.. I was going to get a RSI kit but decided to push the limits of the stock short block NA.. on my RHS based engine I'll be doing a fuel system for sure..
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by busaetr
Well over 800 rwhp has been done on a stock z pump and BAP on a dry kit... NA your good to around 675 rwhp depending on torque on a stock pump..
On E85 wutttttt????
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure Carlos made 800whp on E85 with a BAP.
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