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Old 09-29-2011, 04:37 AM
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Interesting and informative info guys!

for a drag race car, would this be better option and faster than th400 for example?

I'm having now RPM tr6060 and I'm enjoying it!
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Originally Posted by Jeremy@RPMTransmissions
I enjoyed driving my car more after the faceplating.... I dont see how a "clunk" when shifting can ruin the driving experience of a corvette =/

A fully micropolished faceplated transmission shifts smoother than an manual transmission I have ever driven. You can literally take your finger tips and flick the shifter into gear.

Like it was said earlier, you have to drive it like a man.

Hey Jerermy does effort decrease if you are just cruising and using g the clutch?
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Originally Posted by Tiago
if you enjoy driving your car, DON'T DO IT!!!!


its HORRIBLE for a street car....

and it doesn't add any strength to the trans either, you will still shear gears...
LOL
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
Hey Jerermy does effort decrease if you are just cruising and using g the clutch?
There really isnt much effort in it. You just need to shift the gears fast and "own" each shift. Don't doubt yourself at all. Just slap it in the next gear and it will go.
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IMO Kyle's Faceplated RPM TR606 is extreamly smooth compared to the faceplated t56 . Its really not too bad to drive on the street a little clunky but not bad and coupled with the torque cut box or a 2 step button its real smooth ... RPM FTW
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My last post shows speed and et differences with and without the use of wide open shifts with lpe lcn tc box. Faceplate my zr1 tranny and get lpe tc box and I just might pickup 10mph?! 160 mph and that is on mid boost setting....man sound like winter cannot come fast enough. Project session.
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I hate that **** to death... thats all I can say. They break all the time too.
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
My last post shows speed and et differences with and without the use of wide open shifts with lpe lcn tc box.
The difference in ET and mph on that graph is not related to being able to do full throttle shifts, that would be completely isolated to the area around the shift. There is a clear slope difference on those graphs, sounds like it's a traction control box as well? For the slope difference you either added power or you were spinning all the way to the line before. Plus the blue line shows far better shifting then the red line anyway....

Just saying.

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wait I think I see now, you used the no lift thing and turned down the power? So the no lift is the blue line?

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Yes blue line shows no lift with lpe new module that kills power for ms. Turbo cars would benefit greatly.
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Looks and sounds cool (with lpe box) but I've seen Tiagos trannys. In for new results.
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Originally Posted by Tiago
I hate that **** to death... thats all I can say. They break all the time too.
I'm not sure what you were doing to your transmissions but a faceplated TR6060 is about as realiable as you can get for a max effort drag car. Our customers have literally hundreds of passes on their faceplated transmissions with very few failures. 99% of the time the failures in faceplated transmissions are due to driver error.
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Hey Nick...it seems you and I both can wait !!! You found my thread on the bullet...but here is what I found from my recent digging.

Faceplated options....

Tommy Michalkowski @ ECS
Joe Honeycutt @ LMR
Rodney @ RPM
Liberty Gears

From my digging...it seems all the "guys" get the "cluster" from Liberty and do all the setup and custom install at their shops. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tommy @ ECS is working on a "non" clunking 1-4 setup for the T56, I'm not sure about the TR6060...told me it should be "worked out" by end of the month. When I talked to him we was very forth coming with info and a super nice guy.

Here is a post by Jason H. of LPE about the torque cut / 2-step box. Although after talking to him several things seem to have changed. Like the shifter handle...will be avaliable in a leather wrapped "Momo" style.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tra...gear-sets.html

The slickest setup is the faceplated slipper combo. Not sure if your willing to do the R & D to get a slipper to do double duty (strip & street). But if you are, Boninfante clutches are pretty much the sh*t. Several record setting vettes on the "fast" list have used them.

I really contemplated the slipper deal but its lack of streetability without some serious R & D on the car pretty much killed the deal for me. And the parts add up quick, you pertty much need a way to get to the bellhousing every time at the track...if not every run, until it is sorted out (a quicktime windowed bellhousing).

Here is a couple good faceplated runs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GNid...WOuXg&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTd6kB0TuUk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGBw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcb-JS4HAuM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU1u-...eature=related


Thanks.....

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Originally Posted by Jeremy@RPMTransmissions
I'm not sure what you were doing to your transmissions but a faceplated TR6060 is about as realiable as you can get for a max effort drag car. Our customers have literally hundreds of passes on their faceplated transmissions with very few failures. 99% of the time the failures in faceplated transmissions are due to driver error.
how much power on all those customer cars? if not 1200+ no comparison.

they are awersome to shift while racing, because it engages so easy at WOT and high RPM, but normal driving = junk.

plus like I said before, doesn't add any strength to the trans, this still happens repeatedly:


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Old 10-03-2011, 11:14 PM
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[Great tread over at ls1.
Yeah saw that momo shift is an option.
its nice to see that vendors are investing time and money developing parts making our cars tricked out.




QUOTE=LSOHOLIC;1578865475]Hey Nick...it seems you and I both can wait !!! You found my thread on the bullet...but here is what I found from my recent digging.

Faceplated options....

Tommy Michalkowski @ ECS
Joe Honeycutt @ LMR
Rodney @ RPM
Liberty Gears

From my digging...it seems all the "guys" get the "cluster" from Liberty and do all the setup and custom install at their shops. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tommy @ ECS is working on a "non" clunking 1-4 setup for the T56, I'm not sure about the TR6060...told me it should be "worked out" by end of the month. When I talked to him we was very forth coming with info and a super nice guy.

Here is a post by Jason H. of LPE about the torque cut / 2-step box. Although after talking to him several things seem to have changed. Like the shifter handle...will be avaliable in a leather wrapped "Momo" style.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tra...gear-sets.html

The slickest setup is the faceplated slipper combo. Not sure if your willing to do the R & D to get a slipper to do double duty (strip & street). But if you are, Boninfante clutches are pretty much the sh*t. Several record setting vettes on the "fast" list have used them.

I really contemplated the slipper deal but its lack of streetability without some serious R & D on the car pretty much killed the deal for me. And the parts add up quick, you pertty much need a way to get to the bellhousing every time at the track...if not every run, until it is sorted out (a quicktime windowed bellhousing).


I'm going with a faceplated T56, RXT and the torque cut box. Will energize the torque cut when I arm the nitrous. So when I'm not spraying it will be your typical faceplated street twin. I realize I'm leaving a serious 60ft on the table ( by not running a slipper) but I don't have the time or the knowledgable crew (friends) to help me figure this animal out.

Here is a couple good faceplated runs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GNid...WOuXg&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTd6kB0TuUk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGBw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcb-JS4HAuM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU1u-...eature=related


Thanks.....[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by Tiago
how much power on all those customer cars? if not 1200+ no comparison.

they are awersome to shift while racing, because it engages so easy at WOT and high RPM, but normal driving = junk.

plus like I said before, doesn't add any strength to the trans, this still happens repeatedly:
When you over power the gearset yes that happens. Thats why you have to run the right transmission for the application. I would NEVER tell anyone to put 800+hp through a T56 let alone 1200hp. We have many customers putting 1200+hp through our TR6060 transmissions. It adds reliability and repeatability to a manual transmission. Nothing can be done when you exceed the power level of a trans other than break it and move on to the correct part for the application.
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
Yes blue line shows no lift with lpe new module that kills power for ms. Turbo cars would benefit greatly.
Nick, this **** has been used for years in racing! Get it done mate! flat shifts are great and a massive benifit to turbo manual cars.

No idea on the faceplating thing. But i hear that pneumatic actuated sequentical gearboxes are pretty quick at shifting throguh the cogs. In fact the Prodive subaru WRC cars used to be able to shift gears FASTER than you could pull the paddle shift! lol

Then again you could be the first to fit a Dual Clutch geabox to a Vette? Or hoe about a CVT? lol

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