Post rotor meth E-force
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Drifting
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Post rotor meth E-force
Check with this guy.... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...69&postcount=5
I'm wondering how this setups been working. Hows the distribution, temps, etc..
Did he use just one nozzle?
Le Mans Master
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That to would be hard to do because the cores in the blower case are glued in place. Just remove the top cover which is very easy to do, then you will get a good idea as to how its all constructed.
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Drifting
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Ive had it opened up, it was the first thing I did. I'm not real familiar with meth nozzles or spray bars. I'm hoping the experts will chime in and help. Although they will probably just say spray into the intake tube. I'm just looking for that little extra. My intake seems to hover around 105*-111* and ECT @ 180*ish in 65* dry air. My tuner said he starts pulling timing @ 80*iat so I think an optimized meth system would really help.
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St. Jude Donor '13
Ive had it opened up, it was the first thing I did. I'm not real familiar with meth nozzles or spray bars. I'm hoping the experts will chime in and help. Although they will probably just say spray into the intake tube. I'm just looking for that little extra. My intake seems to hover around 105*-111* and ECT @ 180*ish in 65* dry air. My tuner said he starts pulling timing @ 80*iat so I think an optimized meth system would really help.
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Drifting
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I think its a fairly conservative tune @ 10* timing and 11* burst knock slowly pulled out till about 3500rpm. (11.4 afr average)
That being said, it put down 495hp 485tq on a Mustang dyno which is right on par with other E-forces Ive seen so it doesn't seem to bad.
I trust my tuner and he will retune for free forever on this car so there is no problem dialing it in to my liking.
I think if I add meth(no matter where) Ill just have him pull the BKR to smooth it out in the lower rpm.
That being said, it put down 495hp 485tq on a Mustang dyno which is right on par with other E-forces Ive seen so it doesn't seem to bad.
I trust my tuner and he will retune for free forever on this car so there is no problem dialing it in to my liking.
I think if I add meth(no matter where) Ill just have him pull the BKR to smooth it out in the lower rpm.
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Just run 100% meth in the inlet tube. It will not kill the supercharger.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
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St. Jude Donor '13
I think its a fairly conservative tune @ 10* timing and 11* burst knock slowly pulled out till about 3500rpm. (11.4 afr average)
That being said, it put down 495hp 485tq on a Mustang dyno which is right on par with other E-forces Ive seen so it doesn't seem to bad.
I trust my tuner and he will retune for free forever on this car so there is no problem dialing it in to my liking.
I think if I add meth(no matter where) Ill just have him pull the BKR to smooth it out in the lower rpm.
That being said, it put down 495hp 485tq on a Mustang dyno which is right on par with other E-forces Ive seen so it doesn't seem to bad.
I trust my tuner and he will retune for free forever on this car so there is no problem dialing it in to my liking.
I think if I add meth(no matter where) Ill just have him pull the BKR to smooth it out in the lower rpm.
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St. Jude Donor '13
Just run 100% meth in the inlet tube. It will not kill the supercharger.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
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Drifting
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Just run 100% meth in the inlet tube. It will not kill the supercharger.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
Sounds like the inlet temp sensor is not working right or is still at the maf. Just finished another edelbroke kit and the inlet temp was 100-110 while cruising and 140 at times under boost. Car runs methenol too.
realcanuk, what drop in temps did you see spraying in the intake? I wonder if 100% meth would drop temps even more.
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Drifting
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Is that on a Mustang dyno or a Dynojet, corrected #'s?
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St. Jude Donor '13
I did happen to notice on my Torque app the ambient temps just keep climbing but the temp stays accurate on the ac controls. The iat temps seem accurate in the app. The E-force moves the iat to the map sensor correct?
realcanuk, what drop in temps did you see spraying in the intake? I wonder if 100% meth would drop temps even more.
realcanuk, what drop in temps did you see spraying in the intake? I wonder if 100% meth would drop temps even more.
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St. Jude Donor '13
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St. Jude Donor '13
I'm no expert either but if you pull timing at 80, you will always be pulling I think. You can't expect IAT's to be under ambient temps.
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Yea but how do I ask my tuner to change that. I'm no expert by any means and I don't want him to say its not safe to do that and just leave it at 80*. I have nothing but internet tuning to refer to for reasons to add timing/temp back in.
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '13
Yea but how do I ask my tuner to change that. I'm no expert by any means and I don't want him to say its not safe to do that and just leave it at 80*. I have nothing but internet tuning to refer to for reasons to add timing/temp back in.
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
it makes sense to me and I trust him so I'm good with that. I'm making great power and I'm confident I'm safely tuned. After looking at the first full throttle logs we are going to play a bit with the meth volumes and see if we get cooler temps. Also changing injectors and trying a size smaller pulley soon.
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Yea but how do I ask my tuner to change that. I'm no expert by any means and I don't want him to say its not safe to do that and just leave it at 80*. I have nothing but internet tuning to refer to for reasons to add timing/temp back in.
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
He spoke of sporadic knock and said some pd blowers were worse than others. Maybe thats why he was so conservative on temp?
I will ussually 0 out the IAT table till 120 or so then go from there. Really depends on the setup. Playing with timing from 80 degree's up kind of scares me. Could be dangerous on a cold day.
