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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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What should I expect for a RWHP gain from and LS9 cam installed in a LS3 and having an eforce 599 kit. Just wondering if the work is worth the gain.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 01:28 AM
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Custom cam or don't bother.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 03:21 AM
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You should do a GT9 cam...

An LS9 cam will not net you around 15rwhp.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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A custom cam spec'd for your car does not cost much more than an off the shelf grind. It seems silly to me not to go that route. With the amount of labor involved, its nice to get it right the first time.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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I ran a ZR1 cam in my 07 with an EForce and it ran quite well. At the time my main concern was drivability and keeping the car as quiet as possible. I was really into having a sleeper and it worked great. Everyone underestimated the car, . As for performance numbers I can't give you much info because I had a lot of mods at the same time. When I installed my eforce, we changed the heads, cam, lifters, and pushrods. I peaked at 560 + 556 with Z06 manifolds, a pulley down, and no cats.

Brian Reckart has run a ZR1 cam on his 09 vette several times. He could chime in with more info.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 05:05 AM
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Brian Tooley Racing cams FTW. Installing his BTR Stg III 231/248 cam in my LS7 with eforce on it. Made 613rwhp and 580rwtq at 5psi before the cam so I guess we will see how much i gain from the BTR cam.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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Just about any cam will "work" under a p/d blower. If you blow hard in the intake, the power is going up....no matter what cam you use. The instant boost will help cover up a bigger cam's lazy low end too.

You need to ask yourself if the LS9 cam is worth it though. It's really not much of a change. You can swap to a more capable cam and sacrifice little if any drivability or fuel eco.

If you need an "off the shelf" cam, the Livernois 1C would fit what you're looking for http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...-Camshaft.html
I'm running a custom 218/230 118lsa in my daily driver TVS blown pickup. Perfect manners, very slightly rougher idle, good fuel eco. My ugly flat bed work truck will outrun lots of vettes

You can get a custom rec for someone like Pat G for a few bucks. Take the recommendation and have Comp grind the EXACT cam that will do what you're looking to do. You can get any of Comp's custom ground cams delivered to your door for $375. Takes about a week.
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Mark at Bullet Racing Cams is another good dude to talk with and get a cam from.
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Do a real cam from the get go.
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I made 672rwhp with that cam at 10psi with an SI trim. Wound have made 700 with a real cam.
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Originally Posted by Bonnetts02Vette
Brian Tooley Racing cams FTW. Installing his BTR Stg III 231/248 cam in my LS7 with eforce on it. Made 613rwhp and 580rwtq at 5psi before the cam so I guess we will see how much i gain from the BTR cam.
and how it idles??
Thats a relatively aggressive cam right?
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and how it idles??
Thats a relatively aggressive cam right?
In an LS7, that's not that terribly aggressive. Pretty aggressive in an LS2 or 3 though.
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Don't forget that the benefit of the LS9 cam is that it costs $100 and you don't need to change anything in the valvetrain, so you need to add those variables in. An aftermarket cam will of course give you more power, but the hp:$$ ratio isn't any better, at least if you do the swap yourself. An aftermarket cam kit will cost you $750-1k, so another $650+ for ~25hp? I daresay that no aftermarket cam will have any better idle or drivability than the LS9 cam. Just some things to weigh when making your decision...

HOWEVER, I had my car apart anyway for the blower install, so I can't say that if I was going to go to the trouble of swapping the cam (alone), that I would go with the LS9 cam again.

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i have seen more than a handfull of people running th els9 cam with some pretty good gains and stock type drivablilty and idle.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
Just about any cam will "work" under a p/d blower. If you blow hard in the intake, the power is going up....no matter what cam you use. The instant boost will help cover up a bigger cam's lazy low end too.

You need to ask yourself if the LS9 cam is worth it though. It's really not much of a change. You can swap to a more capable cam and sacrifice little if any drivability or fuel eco.

If you need an "off the shelf" cam, the Livernois 1C would fit what you're looking for http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...-Camshaft.html
I'm running a custom 218/230 118lsa in my daily driver TVS blown pickup. Perfect manners, very slightly rougher idle, good fuel eco. My ugly flat bed work truck will outrun lots of vettes

You can get a custom rec for someone like Pat G for a few bucks. Take the recommendation and have Comp grind the EXACT cam that will do what you're looking to do. You can get any of Comp's custom ground cams delivered to your door for $375. Takes about a week.
do you have a idle clip of the 218/230 118lsa
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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If you are doing the labor and have the pulley off, swapping an ls9 cam while you are there is ok. If you are paying anyone or going in afterwards just do a custom cam.
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I installed one in my CTS-V last month. Car was apart for warranty oil leaks and I had a LS9 cam laying around. Just slid it in while the front cover was already off. Have not done a dyno or tune yet. Should be next month after warranty runs out.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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I do have a short idle clip, but don't have a clue how to post it here. I'm a pretty low tech red neck. PM me your EMail and I think I can get it to you.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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I'm shooting for 600rwhp. I'm at 539/527 with the 599 eforce kit and Pfadt headers. I'm going to swap out the 3.5" pulley for a 3" one plus larger injectors. If I can get 60rwhp more with greater boost, I won't do the cam. If I'm short, I want to do a cam.

The question is, how much labor? My dealer is installing the parts. I did not yet ask about a cam. If this cam gets me 20rwhp with <8 hours labor, I may consider it.
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