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Burning Brakes
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Yes, the pump seals fail, so one should rebuild it before that occurs. That means the fender comes off (if you have the standard Alky Control unit), and your car is laid up until you can ship the pump, get it rebuilt, and then sent back to you. That's 2 weeks easy.
Not as much of a problem for people who live in cold climates and have their cars in storage in winter, but a major PITA for those who need/want their cars year round.
E-mail Julio at Alky Control, or Josh at A&A, and they'll tell you, 1-2 years, then rebuild.
Not as much of a problem for people who live in cold climates and have their cars in storage in winter, but a major PITA for those who need/want their cars year round.
E-mail Julio at Alky Control, or Josh at A&A, and they'll tell you, 1-2 years, then rebuild.
Maintenance is part of any performance vehicle. And the pump on a C6 is technically easy to get too.. its not like your pulling of the bumper cover.
As was said.. Dec of 16.. just buy a new pump.. no biggie.. its probably the least expensive part on that car
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Birds of a feather...
At least here it is.
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Only seen one LS3 bend a rod and it was on a standing mile auto car that made 780 rwhp. Car drove in, just had a slight miss from the lack of compression in that one cylinder.
is it ever?
Birds of a feather...
it's an easy job, most people just wait, in an hour or less it's done. I wish we had E85 around here, but we don't. However, even if we did that means a bigger fuel pump/lines/flex fuel sensor and so on. That's a lot of meth pumps.
At least here it is.
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is it ever?
Birds of a feather...
it's an easy job, most people just wait, in an hour or less it's done. I wish we had E85 around here, but we don't. However, even if we did that means a bigger fuel pump/lines/flex fuel sensor and so on. That's a lot of meth pumps.
At least here it is.
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Hmm weird... You mean TWO bent rods from an LS3... I mean my boy bent his about a short 2 months after making 700 wheel, I guess you forgot about that one... He actually got trailered in if I recall and bent push rods, valve springs...Needed wires, plugs, the whole 9 & then some... Musta slipped your mind... I understand, Here are a couple pics to refresh your memory just a tad... ]
Sure did, keep in mind how many cars we do and I do not personally do that specific work. So for conversation lets say five, That's still below a 1% failure rate. It's certainly not common.
Oh wait hold on, if I recall this was an over rev. That's why the push rods bent.
I DO NOT consider that an LS3 failure, That's a driver failure, sorry.
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Sure did, keep in mind how many cars we do and I do not personally do that specific work. So for conversation lets say five, That's still below a 1% failure rate. It's certainly not common.
Oh wait hold on, if I recall this was an over rev. That's why the push rods bent.
I DO NOT consider that an LS3 failure, That's a driver failure, sorry.
Oh wait hold on, if I recall this was an over rev. That's why the push rods bent.
I DO NOT consider that an LS3 failure, That's a driver failure, sorry.
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2 years is a good rule of thumb. Should last longer.. 3-4.. but if I say 3-4 and you get a leak at 2.5 see where this is going. I rather stuff get done before its needed than the latter. This you won't see from any MFG
Maintenance is part of any performance vehicle. And the pump on a C6 is technically easy to get too.. its not like your pulling of the bumper cover.
As was said.. Dec of 16.. just buy a new pump.. no biggie.. its probably the least expensive part on that car
Maintenance is part of any performance vehicle. And the pump on a C6 is technically easy to get too.. its not like your pulling of the bumper cover.
As was said.. Dec of 16.. just buy a new pump.. no biggie.. its probably the least expensive part on that car
I do think the second pump in reserve is good idea, but not all of us live 5 minutes from our tuners, unfortunately. Actually, that's probably fortunate for my wallet, because I get bad ideas when I go there.
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I couldn't find online ordering of pumps on the alkycontrol site but I see they have an Ebay store. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alkycontrol-Methanol-Injection-Modified-Pump-/321363151417?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad2bc8a39&vxp=mtr
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Is there any functional difference with a meth kit on a PD vs Centri? Was thinking of getting meth kit for my eforce but was told it would be less effective because of where the injection goes into the intake vs a centri? Didn't quite get the gist of it.
Wouldn't it be the same installation?
Wouldn't it be the same installation?
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BTW, Julio quoted ^^^^^ above is the manufacturer of the Alky Control units for those who don't know.
I do think the second pump in reserve is good idea, but not all of us live 5 minutes from our tuners, unfortunately. Actually, that's probably fortunate for my wallet, because I get bad ideas when I go there.
I do think the second pump in reserve is good idea, but not all of us live 5 minutes from our tuners, unfortunately. Actually, that's probably fortunate for my wallet, because I get bad ideas when I go there.
I couldn't find online ordering of pumps on the alkycontrol site but I see they have an Ebay store. Alkycontrol Methanol Injection Modified Pump | eBay
Is there any functional difference with a meth kit on a PD vs Centri? Was thinking of getting meth kit for my eforce but was told it would be less effective because of where the injection goes into the intake vs a centri? Didn't quite get the gist of it.
Wouldn't it be the same installation?
Wouldn't it be the same installation?
Here's a video showing pressure rise with air flow MAF
You can hear the rpms increase and see the gauge respond.
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Roots blowers was actually what we started using alky kits on back when Magnuson's were not intercooled yet on the early C5's.
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Is that when we started doing business together, or going off my join date of the forum? I don't remember, but we (ECS) sponsored the forum for a few years before I personally joined, Chris did all the posting back then. I'm going to let him take it back over. 
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I remember his reply about how much it cost.. "Dinner with a NICE bottle of wine"
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Ahh yes, I remember now. It was a black C5, later we put one on a centrifugal car with 346 D1 combo and broke 700 rwhp for the first time on this forum. There was 20 pages of people saying "BS". Now if we don't make in the 700 rwhp range from a SC headers and meth we are looking for the problem.
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Ahh yes, I remember now. It was a black C5, later we put one on a centrifugal car with 346 D1 combo and broke 700 rwhp for the first time on this forum. There was 20 pages of people saying "BS". Now if we don't make in the 700 rwhp range from a SC headers and meth we are looking for the problem.
