Quick Nitrous Question
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
Quick Nitrous Question
I have a quick question, for those of you who are running nitrous and spraying 100 or 150 shot, how much power are you actually picking up? When we started tuning, got the car dialed in on N/A, on 50 shot my car only picked up 30hp and 50tq, dialed it in and didn't bother to tune higher because I have the LNC box for timing and figured it was set due to changing both nitrous and fuel jets when upping the shot.
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
Pro
Joined: Jan 2014
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From: Houston TX
H/C Z on a 100 Shot NX Plate Kit that was recently Dynoed picked up only 70hp. Thinking of going with a 63 or 64 on mine hoping to pick up 150 at the wheels.
I think all setups are different and only way to know for sure is on the Dyno.
I think all setups are different and only way to know for sure is on the Dyno.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
I've been around nitrous motorcycles and currently have a nitrous Hayabusa on a 60 dry shot, picks up 60hp almost every single time on the dyno. This is my 2nd wet kit so just wanted to double check. I guess I need to hit the dyno and play with the jets to make sure I'm getting my 150 hit...
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
I am running TR6 plugs, I forget the gap, pulling 2* for every 50 shot, NA timing was set at 28*. AFR is around 11.4 on nitrous I believe
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From: Wichita Falls TX
Usually 2 degrees per 50 is conservative but you dial the timing in by looking at the plug right after a dyno pull on nitrous and see where the timing make it and see if you need to add or take away timing.
Also we usually recommend a BR67EF on nitrous for 100hp shot.
11.4 is still on the rich side as well so you are probably leaving some power on the table at that AFR.
Burning Brakes
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I can't believe people are still running tr6 plugs with nitrous. The heat range is ok for a smaller shot but you really need to run a non projected tip plug for nitrous. Tr6 is not a good choice.
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Racer
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From: South Jordan UT
On the LS7 I pick up about 120 HP on a 100 shot pulling 5 degrees of timing out of it via the LNC controller. That is on a H/C/I car so I am sure that the cam has a lot to do with that increase while on the shot.
I have a stand alone fuel system with 110 octane leaded gas in it. I am using the BR6EF plugs as the BR7EF did not give me good low speed drive ability. Gaps are at .025.
I have a stand alone fuel system with 110 octane leaded gas in it. I am using the BR6EF plugs as the BR7EF did not give me good low speed drive ability. Gaps are at .025.
Burning Brakes
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From: Southeastern NM
C6 Z
I'm spraying a 150 shot with ms109 in the standalone. With our ****** 91 octane fuel, we had to pull out 10 degrees of timing to be safe. Starts out at 12.2 a/f ratio and ends up around 11.9 on the very top of the run. Car sees 160hp to wheels and 235 torque to wheels. Has a lot to do with my itty bitty CMC reverse ground cam. I'm on stock tb, stock intake, stock heads and stock axle back xhaust!! Also made the pulls in a humid 100 degree shop with over 7000' of air. Guys will argue my setup but these c6 z's are no joke...
Nitrousoutlet Ftw
I'm spraying a 150 shot with ms109 in the standalone. With our ****** 91 octane fuel, we had to pull out 10 degrees of timing to be safe. Starts out at 12.2 a/f ratio and ends up around 11.9 on the very top of the run. Car sees 160hp to wheels and 235 torque to wheels. Has a lot to do with my itty bitty CMC reverse ground cam. I'm on stock tb, stock intake, stock heads and stock axle back xhaust!! Also made the pulls in a humid 100 degree shop with over 7000' of air. Guys will argue my setup but these c6 z's are no joke...
Nitrousoutlet Ftw
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
C6 Z
I'm spraying a 150 shot with ms109 in the standalone. With our ****** 91 octane fuel, we had to pull out 10 degrees of timing to be safe. Starts out at 12.2 a/f ratio and ends up around 11.9 on the very top of the run. Car sees 160hp to wheels and 235 torque to wheels. Has a lot to do with my itty bitty CMC reverse ground cam. I'm on stock tb, stock intake, stock heads and stock axle back xhaust!! Also made the pulls in a humid 100 degree shop with over 7000' of air. Guys will argue my setup but these c6 z's are no joke...
Nitrousoutlet Ftw
I'm spraying a 150 shot with ms109 in the standalone. With our ****** 91 octane fuel, we had to pull out 10 degrees of timing to be safe. Starts out at 12.2 a/f ratio and ends up around 11.9 on the very top of the run. Car sees 160hp to wheels and 235 torque to wheels. Has a lot to do with my itty bitty CMC reverse ground cam. I'm on stock tb, stock intake, stock heads and stock axle back xhaust!! Also made the pulls in a humid 100 degree shop with over 7000' of air. Guys will argue my setup but these c6 z's are no joke...
Nitrousoutlet Ftw
Melting Slicks
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From: Woodbridge, Virginia
I have a quick question, for those of you who are running nitrous and spraying 100 or 150 shot, how much power are you actually picking up? When we started tuning, got the car dialed in on N/A, on 50 shot my car only picked up 30hp and 50tq, dialed it in and didn't bother to tune higher because I have the LNC box for timing and figured it was set due to changing both nitrous and fuel jets when upping the shot.
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
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From: Waco Texas
I recommend never running a TR-6 plug, and the reason why, is it could cause a misfire. This happens because the ground strap practically becomes a glow plug, because it cannot dissipate all the extra heat when you are on the spray. The way you counter this, is by going with a non-projected tip plug which in turn helps shorten the path for all the heat being absorbed by the ground strap.
-Lance
-Lance
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From: Waco Texas
I have a quick question, for those of you who are running nitrous and spraying 100 or 150 shot, how much power are you actually picking up? When we started tuning, got the car dialed in on N/A, on 50 shot my car only picked up 30hp and 50tq, dialed it in and didn't bother to tune higher because I have the LNC box for timing and figured it was set due to changing both nitrous and fuel jets when upping the shot.
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
I am curious if my car is actually picking up 150 or maybe picking up 120ish. Stock TB & Intake with NX Plate Kit...
Thoughts?
First thing, what size lines are you running from each solenoid to the plate?
-Lance