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Laying out a charge pipe for an ECS Novi 1500SL running meth. Don't want to spray on or before the TMAF to force me into SD, but want to spray on the IAT. Will use the stock MAF but separate LSx IAT sensor.
Looks like this will do it but not sure if the spray will still screw with the MAF reading or nozzles are too close to the TB. Maybe someone has a better setup?
Well I know that space is a premium on that pipe. you could move the maf up a smidgen and run an airflow straightener if you are going to run a MAF. A million years ago when I had my radiator in the stock location I did that and the straightener helped a bit. You could also move the nozzle location up and angle the 1/8npt bung so it is spraying away from the sensor. When the meth actually comes in, even at the pressure it comes out, I doubt it would hit the MAF.
Got you on moving the MAF up and the straightener. I can grind the bungs on an angle before welding them in too. I'd like to move the nozzles up as far as possible but read about how it's not good to have them too close to the TB. Probably run 2 #10s rather than a #15 and #5 for a finer spray pattern. Those #15 are pretty sloppy at low PSI.
What would be a good min distance from the throttle body? Meaning no closer than ???
You can put the meth nozzles closer to MAF sensor. You need the iat sensor further away from the nozzles for it to react well to the meth.
Nice setup. I would think the flow will come out of the nozzle and immediately head towards the motor so no spray "back" to the MAF. Also, putting the nozzles inline with the IAT might not be best and best to have the IAT downstream. Did you use a straightener? I got smacked down asking about using one because they limit flow.
Nice setup. I would think the flow will come out of the nozzle and immediately head towards the motor so no spray "back" to the MAF. Also, putting the nozzles inline with the IAT might not be best and best to have the IAT downstream. Did you use a straightener? I got smacked down asking about using one because they limit flow.
There's no spray back. Since the meth only works under boost, it is sucked straight towards the TB. I don't use a straightener and have no issues. As long as you have a decent amount of straight pipe before and after the MAF you should be fine.
Straightener isn't going to limit airflow. Some people have had surging issues with ECS kits in MAF only. Tuner A vs. tuner B, blah blah blah, fine for some, not for others, etc., just telling you what others (and I) have seen.
Straightener isn't going to limit airflow. Some people have had surging issues with ECS kits in MAF only. Tuner A vs. tuner B, blah blah blah, fine for some, not for others, etc., just telling you what others (and I) have seen.
I'll give it a shot without the straightener, can always add it later on.
Just realized I might have problems closing the hood with that IAT location, LOL so off to Plan B. Going to do a similar setup to RealCanuk except mouting the nozzles at 120 degrees rather than 180. Not that it will work better, just I blew so much coin on this crap, I want to see it when I open the hood.
I'll give it a shot without the straightener, can always add it later on.
Just realized I might have problems closing the hood with that IAT location, LOL so off to Plan B. Going to do a similar setup to RealCanuk except mouting the nozzles at 120 degrees rather than 180. Not that it will work better, just I blew so much coin on this crap, I want to see it when I open the hood.
I hear you on wanting to see something, but sometimes less is more lol! Anyone can stick them in the top of the pipe but it doesn't mean its going to look better IMO! GL! No spraying across the MAF as it won't read right. GL!
You can put the meth nozzles closer to MAF sensor. You need the iat sensor further away from the nozzles for it to react well to the meth. Attachment 48024920
Finished it up this morning, similar setup like yours. Kinda overkill but I was bored. Might be 50+ degrees tomorrow and I'm interested is seeing if the ragged MAF signal improves from the OEM charge pipe.
To be honest with you, it looks amazing. Like a piece of art. The bad news is that I'm almost certain you are going to have issues with the MAF signal. From my experience I've found you need to have a good 6 inches of straight pipe before and after the MAF to get a smooth signal.
It's probably just the pic but your total pipe looks much shorter for some reason ?
Canuk. I dicked around with this project in front of the TV for 2 weeks now. The MAF actually has more of a straight run now than the stock ECS pipe, plus it doesn't have the caved it section under their elbow to clear the radiator. The pipe definitely looks shorter, bit it's the exact size. Maybe the angle I took the pic or the crappy wide angle lens?????
Unreal. I'm running 2 fine nozzles that flow the same as the single larger nozzles from Julio. Have a few different other sizes too but don't want to drown out the motor
Canuk. I dicked around with this project in front of the TV for 2 weeks now. The MAF actually has more of a straight run now than the stock ECS pipe, plus it doesn't have the caved it section under their elbow to clear the radiator. The pipe definitely looks shorter, bit it's the exact size. Maybe the angle I took the pic or the crappy wide angle lens?????
Unreal. I'm running 2 fine nozzles that flow the same as the single larger nozzles from Julio. Have a few different other sizes too but don't want to drown out the motor
Hey, I hope it works great. The MAF just looks too close to the bend to me. Let us know how it works !!!
10-06-2016, 02:56 PM
Custom charge pipe advice
