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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 05:10 PM
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about to take the plung and add flex fuel. I know there maybe a broad answer to this question, but how much timing can I expect to be able to add to my timing tables running e85.

Stock LS3 longblock. 14 lbs of boost w/meth.
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 07:25 PM
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How much are you running now?

Probably will take a few more degrees
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I know it's probably conservative, 16 degrees under boost on meth. I have read where some guys are running around 19 with e85.
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That's more than I was expecting you to say

Curious to see what other people say. I'm at 16.5-17'ish degrees with E85, 13.5 psi or so. Would probably take more, haven't ever really tried

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Zr1 guys run high 20s. My zr1 makes 20lbs of boost and on its break in tune I have 21 or 22* in mine.
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Wow! On 93, I only have 11 degrees in mine at 14 pounds. Stock tired ls2

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Lower compression + forged pistons

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Every setup is different but mine is at 17 degrees
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Around 14psi here and I'm around 16-17 making 850ish and on spray it's got to be in the 14-15 range making "915ish"
E85 just seems to make more power just from running it. I know some people in the 50-75+ hp just from 93 to E. Also don't get too caught up in the whole 85% thing. But getting anything % ethanol over the 93 is better but obviously higher is more desirable.

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11 on pump 15 on e85. But I go stupid safe
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Originally Posted by whatcop?
Zr1 guys run high 20s. My zr1 makes 20lbs of boost and on its break in tune I have 21 or 22* in mine.

that's interesting. i didn't realize Zr1 run timing that high. I know lower compression but with IATs from PD blower I would have thought lower timing for safety.
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Mid 20s all day
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Originally Posted by Billy@MTI
Mid 20s all day
Really?
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Yes sir.




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Awesome
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Originally Posted by Billy@MTI
Mid 20s all day
LS9 I assume?
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Ls3


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ls9 i assume?
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Never gone over 17 or so. Maybe I'm just crazy.
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Originally Posted by Billy@MTI
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What has been done to the engine to make it live with that kind of timing?
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They will live on e85



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What has been done to the engine to make it live with that kind of timing?
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