Headers and Supercharger question
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Headers and Supercharger question
So I previously had a supercharged C5 (530 wrhp) that I owned from 2003-2010. When I first owned that car I was single and could do what I wanted when I wanted so as you can imagine car life was fun. Now being married with 4 kids.... I was lucky to have convinced my wife to sell the boat we were not using enough (the boat that replaced my C5) I recently got back into a vette buying a 2010 convertible 6spd grand sport.... The car is basically stock except for a CAI and a tune. As you can imagine it is not fast enough for me.....LOL. It is not bad but once you taste HP it's very hard to back peddle.
I would love to supercharge this car but I had to promise my wife that I would not stick money into mods for a couple years. Hey at least I have a vette again! right..... So on with my question. The one mod I could do that is not all that cheap but could make a nice addition power wise and sound wise would be a nice set of Kooks headers and x pipe with a new tune. I believe I would want them if I was to eventually get a supercharger right? Are they a waste of money or are the necessary with a SC? My headers on my C5 I had ceramic coated that still is a smart option correct? What issues would I need to worry about with the additional heat from headers? Would I need to buy any complimentary items? heat resistant plug wires? thicker tunnel plate? ext..... ????
Or should I skip the headers and just keep saving for the supercharger and just add a supercharger and no headers. My goal ideally would be 600 RWHP but I guess I would be happy with 550 RWHP too. it's just 600 rwhp sounds so much cooler....LOL
But being a few years away from a supercharger add I thought headers might be a small pacifier and I might need/want them later anyway.
Thanks,
Tom
I would love to supercharge this car but I had to promise my wife that I would not stick money into mods for a couple years. Hey at least I have a vette again! right..... So on with my question. The one mod I could do that is not all that cheap but could make a nice addition power wise and sound wise would be a nice set of Kooks headers and x pipe with a new tune. I believe I would want them if I was to eventually get a supercharger right? Are they a waste of money or are the necessary with a SC? My headers on my C5 I had ceramic coated that still is a smart option correct? What issues would I need to worry about with the additional heat from headers? Would I need to buy any complimentary items? heat resistant plug wires? thicker tunnel plate? ext..... ????
Or should I skip the headers and just keep saving for the supercharger and just add a supercharger and no headers. My goal ideally would be 600 RWHP but I guess I would be happy with 550 RWHP too. it's just 600 rwhp sounds so much cooler....LOL
But being a few years away from a supercharger add I thought headers might be a small pacifier and I might need/want them later anyway.
Thanks,
Tom
#2
Drifting
For your power goal, I would just save for the supercharger. If going the supercharger route, headers are always a good option. I would get catless headers because they don't last with boost. In addition, getting rid of the cats, ceramic coating the x-pipe, and adding an Elite Engineering tunnel plate with thermal abs greatly reduced my tunnel heat inside the car.
#3
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Thanks for your input. If I eliminate the cats can i still pass emissions in WI?
If I am going with a SC and I would want headers anyway I thought it would be nice to enjoy them now until I get a SC...... agree? or is the power increase nothing that I would feel to excited about?
I am a Tool & Die maker. I can make my own tunnel plate if I had a template to work from if anyone had one for local pick up I would buy a stock one.
If I am going with a SC and I would want headers anyway I thought it would be nice to enjoy them now until I get a SC...... agree? or is the power increase nothing that I would feel to excited about?
I am a Tool & Die maker. I can make my own tunnel plate if I had a template to work from if anyone had one for local pick up I would buy a stock one.
#4
Drifting
Not sure what the emissions requirements are in WI, but you could always buy a catted x-pipe and gut them when you get the supercharger. With a tune, you'll probably pick up 25-30whp with the headers. So, yes the headers are worth it for both N/A and boosted applications.
#7
Pro
Supercharger
I have a bone stock 2013 GS with just a V3Si Trim supercharger. Stock exhaust manifolds and exhaust system with NPP. After dyno tuning, it put down a whopping 600 to the wheels! And I was planning of adding Kooks long tubes headers/ xpipe....but not anytime soon. I’m more than happy with the power. I don’t race or track the car. It’s weekend getaway car with my wife. When in the highway, watch out, it just keeps pulling and pulling. I love it!
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#9
I basically went the route you are asking about. I have a 2013 GS M6 and I first did kooks headers, catless xpipe, and tune. I ended up at 418whp after that first round of mods. I just got my car back from having an A&A supercharger along with meth injection. It put down 638whp and 565ft lbs of torque. I'm glad I did the headers and mid pipes first it was a nice bump in power and sound for a couple years. Now the car is on a whole different level.
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#11
ZO6 manifolds and x-pipes is a cheaper alternative and will hold the HP of a SC, it's 3in all the way back. You'll defiantly end up with more HP with headers though.
#12
Racer
So I previously had a supercharged C5 (530 wrhp) that I owned from 2003-2010. When I first owned that car I was single and could do what I wanted when I wanted so as you can imagine car life was fun. Now being married with 4 kids.... I was lucky to have convinced my wife to sell the boat we were not using enough (the boat that replaced my C5) I recently got back into a vette buying a 2010 convertible 6spd grand sport.... The car is basically stock except for a CAI and a tune. As you can imagine it is not fast enough for me.....LOL. It is not bad but once you taste HP it's very hard to back peddle.
I would love to supercharge this car but I had to promise my wife that I would not stick money into mods for a couple years. Hey at least I have a vette again! right..... So on with my question. The one mod I could do that is not all that cheap but could make a nice addition power wise and sound wise would be a nice set of Kooks headers and x pipe with a new tune. I believe I would want them if I was to eventually get a supercharger right? Are they a waste of money or are the necessary with a SC? My headers on my C5 I had ceramic coated that still is a smart option correct? What issues would I need to worry about with the additional heat from headers? Would I need to buy any complimentary items? heat resistant plug wires? thicker tunnel plate? ext..... ????
Or should I skip the headers and just keep saving for the supercharger and just add a supercharger and no headers. My goal ideally would be 600 RWHP but I guess I would be happy with 550 RWHP too. it's just 600 rwhp sounds so much cooler....LOL
But being a few years away from a supercharger add I thought headers might be a small pacifier and I might need/want them later anyway.
Thanks,
Tom
I would love to supercharge this car but I had to promise my wife that I would not stick money into mods for a couple years. Hey at least I have a vette again! right..... So on with my question. The one mod I could do that is not all that cheap but could make a nice addition power wise and sound wise would be a nice set of Kooks headers and x pipe with a new tune. I believe I would want them if I was to eventually get a supercharger right? Are they a waste of money or are the necessary with a SC? My headers on my C5 I had ceramic coated that still is a smart option correct? What issues would I need to worry about with the additional heat from headers? Would I need to buy any complimentary items? heat resistant plug wires? thicker tunnel plate? ext..... ????
Or should I skip the headers and just keep saving for the supercharger and just add a supercharger and no headers. My goal ideally would be 600 RWHP but I guess I would be happy with 550 RWHP too. it's just 600 rwhp sounds so much cooler....LOL
But being a few years away from a supercharger add I thought headers might be a small pacifier and I might need/want them later anyway.
Thanks,
Tom
#13
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
thanks
I believe I will be good with what I have purchased but still would like some reassurance.
Tom
#14
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Any more experienced answers to my "I know" redundant questions here.
I just want to be sure I am installing parts that I will not regret later because they were not cheap.
I just want to be sure I am installing parts that I will not regret later because they were not cheap.
#15
Instructor
Thank you my friend, I actually did go ahead and purchase a set of 1 7/8 Kooks "jet hot" coated headers and high flow catted mid pipe. I can basically gaurentee I will never be over 600 rwhp with my car once supercharged. I keep getting a mixed bag of comments on plus and minus of jet hot coated headers. I don't care about the cost of it is there really any other negative?? I like the fact they do help keep the heat down and they always look like new! as far as the high flow cats..... people say that I would blow them out??? some say wont be a problem..... if I 550-600 rwhp range would i really have this problem or is that for the higher hp range cars like 700 plus??
I believe I will be good with what I have purchased but still would like some reassurance.
Tom
I believe I will be good with what I have purchased but still would like some reassurance.
Tom
#16
Pro
As mentioned, I installed a V3Si Trim on my 2013 GS. Of course my next mod was going to be headers and x pipe after the the blower. Well, after the install of the blower and dyno tuning, it easily made 600rwhp. And that’s with the stock exhaust. Yes, I will install the headers some time,but not anytime soon. I’m more than happy with the power right now.
#17
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
#19
Like others mentioned headers and V8s go together like baseball and apple pie. If you want a slight increase in performance and sound z06 stuff is a great option.
Or go with any reputable brand 1 7/8 setup and you won't be disappointed will put a smile on your face every time you floor it.
Or go with any reputable brand 1 7/8 setup and you won't be disappointed will put a smile on your face every time you floor it.
#20
Instructor
I basically went the route you are asking about. I have a 2013 GS M6 and I first did kooks headers, catless xpipe, and tune. I ended up at 418whp after that first round of mods. I just got my car back from having an A&A supercharger along with meth injection. It put down 638whp and 565ft lbs of torque. I'm glad I did the headers and mid pipes first it was a nice bump in power and sound for a couple years. Now the car is on a whole different level.