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Just felt that i had to give credit where credit is due. I recently bought a bunch of stuff from cartek for my precision red C6, being from bahrain the only way i can get everything installed right is constant customer support, and the guys at cartek were fantastic, Rich helped me constantly with the wiring for the modules so thanks rich, Dave Busch was great as he constantly helped with install advice and actually how to launch the car. With their help the car feels like an eleven sec car, being the proud owner of an eight sec turbo LTI i know what elevens feels like. I managed a 12.3 @ 118 with a 1.9 60'. Thanks guys
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Originally Posted by FLC6
We want to know what you bought and what tranny you have on your C6.
I also found out that rally cars used to by pass speed sensors and ABS sensors to prevent a similar bog. So the TM is not a myth guys
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Originally Posted by Jason Blue Boost
Brn-C6, what kind of vechicle is your 8 second LT1. Would like to see some pics or more info. 
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Originally Posted by Jason Blue Boost
Brn-C6, what kind of vechicle is your 8 second LT1. Would like to see some pics or more info.
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Originally Posted by brn-c6
Just felt that i had to give credit where credit is due. I recently bought a bunch of stuff from cartek for my precision red C6, being from bahrain the only way i can get everything installed right is constant customer support, and the guys at cartek were fantastic, Rich helped me constantly with the wiring for the modules so thanks rich, Dave Busch was great as he constantly helped with install advice and actually how to launch the car. With their help the car feels like an eleven sec car, being the proud owner of an eight sec turbo LTI i know what elevens feels like. I managed a 12.3 @ 118 with a 1.9 60'. Thanks guys
A 1.7x 60' should get you there....A few folkes have done this with similar trap speeds in C5 Z06s.
PS: My neighbors family is from Bahrain, their last name is Deeb.
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Originally Posted by brn-c6
kooks headers, TM Module, Fan Module, and I have a six speed. And By the way the TM really works I could not even leave the line without bogging with slicks before installing the TM as i was weiry of installing, but the car crazily wakes up with it I picked up three tenths right off the back with a careful 60' as i have broken two rears already my car has only 800 miles and I had the module installed at the track it took us less than an hour.
I also found out that rally cars used to by pass speed sensors and ABS sensors to prevent a similar bog. So the TM is not a myth guys
I also found out that rally cars used to by pass speed sensors and ABS sensors to prevent a similar bog. So the TM is not a myth guys
Thanks for posting
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Originally Posted by jschindler
Interesting. My car has never bogged leaving the line, or when shifting. I sure don't understand why some do. Was the bog with the active handling and traction control turned completely off? (not competitive mode either). Just curious as I'm trying to understand this. Of couse, I don't have slicks, so maybe that is the issue. Very confusing to me.
Thanks for posting
Thanks for posting
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Originally Posted by brn-c6
I turn off traction everytime I start the car. You are absolutely right without the slicks I had no problems as traction was loose just like the street I had hoosiers on my car and no matter how i launched the car it bogged: I slipped the clutch, dumped the clutch, 2000, 3000, 3500 rpm launch i did it all with the torque management the car was not the same it was a whole new animal. Between shifts you dont actually feel the bog but when you put the TM on you will know that the car just opens up between gears. Obviously the car will have to work much harder with traction therefore the car protects itself from breakage through the TM
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.
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[QUOTE=jschindler]I can't help wondering though if it is truly "torque management" in effect, or if the module simply tricks the system into advancing timing - which is not torque management, it's simply re-tuning the engine.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.[/QUOTE=jschindler]
I personally believe its to do more with the ABS system more than tuning, as in the TM wiring the only wire thats cut for signal manipulation is the ABS/speed sensor wire by the wheel the rest are all tapped into to. As it is only natural if the ABS were to kick in the throttle would automatically close down due to decelleration and thus the timing would retard. Also when the TM module is activated the ABS check light comes on I did my research and found out Rally cars bypass their ABS system for harder launches. A friend of mine owns an SL55 and even his car on a hard launch the traction control kicks in slightly even with it off.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.[/QUOTE=jschindler]
I personally believe its to do more with the ABS system more than tuning, as in the TM wiring the only wire thats cut for signal manipulation is the ABS/speed sensor wire by the wheel the rest are all tapped into to. As it is only natural if the ABS were to kick in the throttle would automatically close down due to decelleration and thus the timing would retard. Also when the TM module is activated the ABS check light comes on I did my research and found out Rally cars bypass their ABS system for harder launches. A friend of mine owns an SL55 and even his car on a hard launch the traction control kicks in slightly even with it off.
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Interesting information. This is new to me. Thank you very much for posting
Originally Posted by jschindler
I can't help wondering though if it is truly "torque management" in effect, or if the module simply tricks the system into advancing timing - which is not torque management, it's simply re-tuning the engine.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.[/QUOTE=jschindler]
I personally believe its to do more with the ABS system more than tuning, as in the TM wiring the only wire thats cut for signal manipulation is the ABS/speed sensor wire by the wheel the rest are all tapped into to. As it is only natural if the ABS were to kick in the throttle would automatically close down due to decelleration and thus the timing would retard. Also when the TM module is activated the ABS check light comes on I did my research and found out Rally cars bypass their ABS system for harder launches. A friend of mine owns an SL55 and even his car on a hard launch the traction control kicks in slightly even with it off.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.[/QUOTE=jschindler]
I personally believe its to do more with the ABS system more than tuning, as in the TM wiring the only wire thats cut for signal manipulation is the ABS/speed sensor wire by the wheel the rest are all tapped into to. As it is only natural if the ABS were to kick in the throttle would automatically close down due to decelleration and thus the timing would retard. Also when the TM module is activated the ABS check light comes on I did my research and found out Rally cars bypass their ABS system for harder launches. A friend of mine owns an SL55 and even his car on a hard launch the traction control kicks in slightly even with it off.
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Originally Posted by brn-c6
Just felt that i had to give credit where credit is due. I recently bought a bunch of stuff from cartek for my precision red C6, being from bahrain the only way i can get everything installed right is constant customer support, and the guys at cartek were fantastic, Rich helped me constantly with the wiring for the modules so thanks rich, Dave Busch was great as he constantly helped with install advice and actually how to launch the car. With their help the car feels like an eleven sec car, being the proud owner of an eight sec turbo LTI i know what elevens feels like. I managed a 12.3 @ 118 with a 1.9 60'. Thanks guys
Thanks for the props brn-c6.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
I can't help wondering though if it is truly "torque management" in effect, or if the module simply tricks the system into advancing timing - which is not torque management, it's simply re-tuning the engine.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.
I say this because some other well respected tuners and programmers have said that there is no torque management on six speed cars. I'm not trying to imply that Carteks module does not do anything, I'm simply saying that there may be a difference in semantics as to what is really being referred to as torque management.
Mr. jschindler, I designed the Cartek torque management module and I can tell you that it does not have any effect on timing or air/fuel, it is not a tuning device.
Any "Tuner" that states that there is no torque management in the M6 C6, is wrong.
Julio
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Originally Posted by webdzynes
Interesting. Any gains to be realized with the TM module for street driving only (no track)?
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carteki can tell you 1st hand 6 SPEED CARS HAVE TM !!!
how many times do we have to talk about it??
julio and i were at the track in my zo6...02
before TM 11.8 AFTER TM removed 11.3 SAME DAY SAME TRACK !!
WITH IN 1 HOUR !!!!!!!
if your tuner cant figure it out call one that knows what the hell there talking about...
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Originally Posted by brent eb02
carteki can tell you 1st hand 6 SPEED CARS HAVE TM !!!
how many times do we have to talk about it??
julio and i were at the track in my zo6...02
before TM 11.8 AFTER TM removed 11.3 SAME DAY SAME TRACK !!
WITH IN 1 HOUR !!!!!!!
if your tuner cant figure it out call one that knows what the hell there talking about...
