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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Please take a driving course with your C6! Last Sunday at the end of a cruise night I saw a new mustang smoke a C6. I can hear as well as see the kid driver couldn't handle his ride (the C6)!
I see so many pump money into their cars - why not put a little into yourself and take a course on how to run a vette? You learn how NOT to ruin the car, be safer on the road and to others, and actually get those great 1/4 mile times and gas milage we all read about in the mags.

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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I wasn't aiming at you Rick. I just ment that if the pros can get 12.3 from the car maybe they know something SOME of us don't.
People spend thousands in mods trying to get their car e/t's down. When SOMETIMES it's the driver. No insult intended.
BTW, I caught just briefly this weekend after a Car & Driver show (the one where the Corvette Beats the 911) this C&D guy is leaning against a Viper and says, "If you can drive this car faster than me - I'll give you the car!" I am sure the show repeats again.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Sounds like you are talking about drag racing. Driving courses aren't going to teach you that. You need practice at the dragstrip. If you are talking about autocrossing or road courses, that's a different story. If you want to blow by a new Mustang, all you need to know how to do is shift... not drive.

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Sounds like you are talking about drag racing. Driving courses aren't going to teach you that. You need practice at the dragstrip. If you are talking about autocrossing or road courses, that's a different story. If you want to blow by a new Mustang, all you need to know how to do is shift... not drive.

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Driving skill comes from High Performance Driving Schools, Seat time seat time and more set time will beat mods EVERY TIME.

Drag racing take a lot of skill too, not just shifting. and Street racing is just dangerious. Take it to the track or dont do it at all.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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So Mike, understanding how to manipulate the throttle to get the tires to bite wouldn't be included? I always thought knowing your car, how to launch AND shift is the play. Several years ago ATCO had a Sunday race school I want to say it was something like $350 to learn the best methods for heating tires (if needed) finding a sticky patch, rolling in, reaction methods, launching and some practical lessions in physics like temps,humidity, elevation, wind and how hot your car was running to name a few. At that time I had just broken-in my '94 Formula. Stock I was getting low 15's. Since there was no "Forum" like this to gain information I took the day and learned from the pros. I'll argue that nobody just has an epifany and comes up knowing tried and true methods - at anything. Thats why car manufactures don't have security guards testing their cars isn't it?
BTW, that Formula ran mid 14's, 13.9 when adding a catback system and a Calloway snorkle.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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So Mike, understanding how to manipulate the throttle to get the tires to bite wouldn't be included?
I guess that depends. Most road course schools don't spend much time on launching and shifting. Whatever they "teach" you, you're going to have to repeat dozens of times to even have a hope of actually using. The comment about "seat time" is right on track.

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Driving skill comes from High Performance Driving Schools, Seat time seat time and more set time will beat mods EVERY TIME.
In fact, we recommend that you leave the car bone stock (right down to the air cleaners) until you are within 3 seconds of the lap record for your class of car on street tires before doing any of the following: A) R-compounds, B) slicks, C) engine mods, D) rear gears, E) lowering the car, F) springs and/or shocks,...

The only mods that are useful in your early driving career are brake pads* and fresh brake fluids, practically everything else slows down the learning process!

The one thing that speeds up the learning process is to find a driving instructor with your kind of mindset, having him/her in the car, and obeying his/her instructions.....
[*] pads and fluid are simply consumables at race tracks

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Thanks for the advice.
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