Halltech Cold air Induction Sysytem
Le Mans Master
Joined: Sep 2001
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From: Gainesville VA
Originally Posted by Jim Hall
Do you mean Waterworld?
Yes, and "it looks like the water helped "
Have any used/test ones like the last one I bought? If so sign me up. I want the CAI deal like the pic.
Racer
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: San Jose CA
Originally Posted by bluebullet
I'm looking for an answer here, I'm trying to make a decision, and all of this talk of hydrolock has me worried, but then I see a video of Jim spraying a water hose directly on his air filter while the car is idling, so now I'm really confused????? Has Halltech come up with a special cotton gauze filter that does not allow water to enter??, from what I can see, all of the aftermarket units available use the same type of filter, it's the location of the filter that's in question(ie, whether it can ingest water or not) but if the filter can be sprayed directly with a water hose while the engine is running, then isn't all of this talk of water ingestion a moot point?
Please explain
Please explain
Hydro-Lock is a possible end from bottom breathing intakes. The idea is that if you drive through too much standing water, it splashes off the air dam and up into your filter.
This hydro-Lock scenario is not a concern with the Stinger, since the stinger doesn't pick up air from below. There was, however, some concern back a couple months about water getting into the Stinger through the seals around the hood. Particularly the horizontal seal above the corvette emblem on the nose of the car. Jim made the "Waterworld" video (the one where he's spraying water onto the stinger) to show that even in idiotically extreme cases, hydro-lock should not result from the tiny amount of water coming through the hood seals.
Last edited by Virt; Sep 27, 2005 at 03:14 PM. Reason: Found a typo.
Le Mans Master
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From: Imperial Beach CA
Originally Posted by Virt
Hydro-Lock is a possible end from bottom breathing intakes. The idea is that if you drive through too much standing water, it splashes off the air dam and up into your filter.
This hydro-Lock scenario is not a concern with the Stinger, since the stinger doesn't pick up air from below. There was, however, some concern back a couple months about water getting into the Stinger through the seals around the hood. Particularly the horizontal seal above the corvette emblem on the nose of the car. Jim made the "Waterworld" video (the one where he's spraying water onto the stinger) to show that even in idiotically extreme cases, hydro-lock should not result from the tiny amount of water coming through to hood seals.
This hydro-Lock scenario is not a concern with the Stinger, since the stinger doesn't pick up air from below. There was, however, some concern back a couple months about water getting into the Stinger through the seals around the hood. Particularly the horizontal seal above the corvette emblem on the nose of the car. Jim made the "Waterworld" video (the one where he's spraying water onto the stinger) to show that even in idiotically extreme cases, hydro-lock should not result from the tiny amount of water coming through to hood seals.
Drifting
Joined: May 2005
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From: Ft. Liquordale Florida
Originally Posted by jimman
Me too.That front seal was low on mine after the body work got done. You can move the seal up some, so it seals tighter - but you may need a (re)application of weatherstrip cement if it's been on there awhile. The hood pushes down against it, and you can raise it up to just over the lip of the front fascia, and the hood will push it down & seal against it.
Rick
Heel & Toe
Joined: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by Virt
Jim made the "Waterworld" video (the one where he's spraying water onto the stinger) to show that even in idiotically extreme cases, hydro-lock should not result from the tiny amount of water coming through the hood seals.
Once again, I would like Jim's answer on this, not the opinion of those that have decided to support his product, no offense, I just want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Rowlett TX
Originally Posted by bluebullet
I understand this completely, however due to his graphic use of a garden hose, Jim has also shown us that even if a big dose of water hits the filter(from the top or bottom), apperantly it still won't enter the engine. Do you really expect me to believe that the engine knows whether the water came from the top or bottom???
Once again, I would like Jim's answer on this, not the opinion of those that have decided to support his product, no offense, I just want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Once again, I would like Jim's answer on this, not the opinion of those that have decided to support his product, no offense, I just want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Racer
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 320
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From: San Jose CA
Originally Posted by bluebullet
I understand this completely, however due to his graphic use of a garden hose, Jim has also shown us that even if a big dose of water hits the filter(from the top or bottom), apperantly it still won't enter the engine. Do you really expect me to believe that the engine knows whether the water came from the top or bottom???
Once again, I would like Jim's answer on this, not the opinion of those that have decided to support his product, no offense, I just want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Once again, I would like Jim's answer on this, not the opinion of those that have decided to support his product, no offense, I just want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Look closely. The hose never sprays directly onto the filter element. If it did, I would suspect problems. Still, I say the situation that Jim showed would be categorized as grossly moronic if a customer were to do that to his/her own car. The idea is that the design is sound enough so that if you were to do something grossly moronic, it could be possible for you to come out of it without harm. As such, it doesn't mean you can or should do it at home without possibly (maybe even likely) suffering heavy consequences. In fact, he states this as a disclaimer to the video I believe. This of itself is more than what most manufacturers will ever claim, and shows that Jim is up to taking a risky step to back his product.
However, demand what you must, and believe what you will.
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